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In Reply to: RE: I find it very difficult to care about 3D. posted by Harmonia on December 28, 2009 at 16:25:27
I hear ya...I felt the same way before Avatar. It has changed my thought process on the matter.
I'm a fan of Blu ray as well..but don't use it much. Most of what I watch is 720P.After delving into the projector world recently...there's no looking back.
I think that is what pushes me towards 3D. If I were using a flat panel to watch my movies, I'm sure I would feel the same. But throw the same image on a 10 ft diagonal screen...now we're talking a whole nother ball game.This is where 3D is going to really take off with the advancements in filming and source equipment that can produce nearly holographic images. The nVidia 3D setup claims to be even better than what you've seen in the movie theaters offered so far. Its less gimmicky than the old school 3D material.
I really like the immersive feel of the newer 3D technology.
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that means 1080p full frame per eye-side.
we saw a scene where there was a school of whales swimming in a pool.
it was so real. until anyone has seen this they simply don't have any f****** idea how the game has changed.
the only catch is that as one of the whales swam near the pheriperal of our eyesight, it didn't "jump" out of the screen as our instinct expected it to. instead it got "folded" beneath the side baffle of the TV set. it goes to show the bigger the screen size, the better to experience the immersive effect. if that TV set's side baffle had been outside of the pheriperal of our eyesight, the whale's swim-pass effect would have been complete.
the standard 16:9 video aspect ratio is sadly inadequate to fully convey the reality that 3DTV can create.
Now that sounds amazing!!!You're torturing me here!! lol
I'm gonna start saving my pennies now for a 3D projector!
I have a retail friend that saw something similar at a CES show in Atlanta.
He said it was something he's NEVER experienced before!
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I'll buy Coraline on BD, but not Avatar - Pandora was a marvelous creation, but the movie around it was typical JC action movie. Not my cuppa. I can live without 3D for Coraline.
One of the things I find slightly offputting about 3D is the size change of the actors relative to the frame when going from tihht shots to medium shots to long shots. Humans are big, then get little then get big again.
Plus, my favorite movies aren't the blockbusters and big action movies that are likely to be the main source of 3D material for the forseeable future.
But I do agree with you that bigger is better when it comes to movies at home. I don't have a spot for FP, so I can't go there quite yet. But I have friends with FPs and it's a thrill to see a movie at 108".
Even if I had a projector, I wouldn't want the display area any bigger than my 60" plasma because of how close I sit. Screen size has nothing to do with 3D.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
Exactly how close do you sit? I think you miss what I'm trying to convey.
Watching a 60 inch TV and watching a 100" or larger screen is a different experience.Even an 80 inch screen would make you think twice about using your TV for movies anymore.There's a cinematic feel you get that I've never experienced from a television..not one can give you the cinematic feel of a large projection screen.
I have 52 and 42 inch panels here.I use neither for movies anymore.
It's one of those things. Until you experience it at home, you won't understand.
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> > Exactly how close do you sit? < <
I have a 60" Kuro screen. I sit about 8 feet away.
> > I think you miss what I'm trying to convey. < <
Ditto.
> > Watching a 60 inch TV and watching a 100" or larger screen is a different experience. < <
Without a point of reference, it doesn't matter. My plasma looks bigger than the big screen at my local AMC when I watched Young Sherlock holmes this afternoon from the rear seats. It all depends on how close you're sitting. The smaller screen can provide better resolution and a more film-like experience.
> > There's a cinematic feel you get that I've never experienced from a television..not one can give you the cinematic feel of a large projection screen. < <
I don't have a room in my house that would make projection feasible or more advantageous than a plasma.
I have 52 and 42 inch panels here.I use neither for movies anymore.
It's one of those things. Until you experience it at home, you won't understand.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
The cinema experience is different from flat-panel television as opposed to projector and a 100" or larger screen.
For movies my wife and I prefer front projection rather than watch our LCD direct view TVs, and they're 40" and 48" respectively, and everything we have is 1080P capable.
Cheers,
AuPh
One of my panels is 1080P. The other panel and the front projector are 720P. One of these days I'll bump the projector up to 1080P. This will probably happen once 3D friendly 1080P projectors come to market.
Yup once you go front projection and screen...you never go back to a direct view TV for serious viewing! lol
"Yup once you go front projection and screen...you never go back to a direct view TV for serious viewing! lol"
Sometimes it's about quality, and not about size. :) [Yeah, I know you're trying for a jab there.] That's one reason why many people have both. Just don't compare an LCD panel with a good plasma, I'd choose the PJ over the LCD too, for now. [There's my jab.] But yes, some people like the cinema "feeling" that only a very large screen can give. Especially when combined with a bunch of viewers, I'm convinced some movies are made to be seen with "crowds" and you need a large screen for that.
OK..you got me there!lol I have to say out of my Plasma flat panel, LCD flat panel and DLP projector. Giving consideration that the LCD is 1080P. My 720P projector still beats it across the board in color saturation, black levels and shadow detail. I've done several comparisons between them displaying Blu rays ripped to hard drive. I have them both set to display the same image at the same time from the same source.The only thing my flat panels do better, is viewing in direct sunlight. No projector can defeat the ambient light issue.
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