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• There *could* be other differences - cfraser 20:42:30 01/28/10 (3)
  In Reply to: RE: Firmware posted by Jazz Inmate on January 28, 2010 at 20:04:19

  But I think we have to consider that the primary features people would really get on, the audio and video "processing" hardware, is the same in both models (based on their inspection). Any differences would then be mainly operational functionality adjusted by FW. Oppo themselves have said that many other attributes people might like cannot be offered because the chip sets are a limiting factor, not firmware. By "processing" I am including the analog output stages, anything that directly affects what we see/hear after taken from the disc.

  If somebody asked me for an opinion on which model to buy, Lex or Oppo, and I said the Oppo, I would not think the person the slightest bit "stupid" if they bought the Lex instead. That is assuming $3.5k to them is about as financially "significant" as $500 is to me. There are plenty of people in that situation. It's nicer looking (opinion) and more exclusive and has a nice name and what the hell...

  I think at some point we have to stop being audio/video "mathematicians" and come to the reasonable conclusion that for all practical purposes two things are "the same", even if they aren't mathematically congruent.
  

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  • RE: There *could* be other differences - Jazz Inmate 21:15:00 01/28/10 (2)
    In Reply to: RE: There *could* be other differences posted by cfraser on January 28, 2010 at 20:42:30

    I think that misses the point. Under their agreement, Lexicon made design recommendations to Oppo. Those recommendations were all taken, according to Marc Kellom, Harman International’s head of High Performance A/V products. So the fact that the Lexicon and Oppo are the same implies that Lexicon, at its own expense and expertise, brought the quality of the Oppo up to its standards.

    For rabid Oppo fans to then parade around the internet acting like Lexicon broke the 10 commandments is quite ironic, considering they are enjoying Lexicon's improvements to the Oppo without compensating Lexicon. So if anyone is being robbed here, it may well be Lexicon.
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    • What about the BDP-83SE changes? - cfraser 22:25:20 01/28/10 (1)
      In Reply to: RE: There *could* be other differences posted by Jazz Inmate on January 28, 2010 at 21:15:00

      Is it not agreed that that's a larger improvement than anything Harman suggested? Or was that their suggestion, and they chose not to use it? I say you're travelling a lonely road my friend...which is not a bad thing. :)
      
      I do have Harman and Lex gear in two of my rooms. Oppo also in one of those two, and another room too. I'm not biased. Just cheap.
      

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      • I bought one a month ago - Jazz Inmate 22:51:08 01/28/10 (0)
        In Reply to: RE: What about the BDP-83SE changes? posted by cfraser on January 28, 2010 at 22:25:20

        Yes, it makes more sense to criticize Lexicon for not OEM'ing the SE version of the Oppo, but I suppose the priority was placed on HDMI with analog performance an afterthought.
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