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I have a pioneer VSX DS1 that has many interesting features. A few of them I have not seen in any other receiver. 1) it has an adjustment for the phono level. cool idea! 2) Most receivers have a bass and treble adjustment. This has a "midrange" adjustment. 3) I have seen anywhere from a 2.0 to a 9.1 receiver. I don't believe anything above 5.1 is needed because a DVD does not carry any more audio tracks that that. This receive has a "center subwoofer" though. No idea what that means? But interesting idea...
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Midrange controls were really common in the '70s. I still have a receiver with a midrange control and phono level controls (+ phono capacitance selection for MM) from then, as well as a zillion other switches...
These days, generally speaking, there is a drive to remove physical controls; they cost more and make construction more expensive. I say that because many even very cheap receivers have built-in graphic equalizers that you wouldn't know of just by looking at them. IOW they do most of stuff in the digital domain.
Not poking at you, but I don't know what the heck 11.2 or 9.1 or x.y means anymore. It used to mean discrete source channels, now all the "kids" say they have a 12.4 or whatever system and they use it to mean the number of speakers/subs they have. The manufacturers encourage this, just like they encourage calling them LED TVs. Rendering useful info to almost meaningless marketing gobble.
I have never seen a consumer audio source product with greater than 7.1 (i.e. qty. 8) *discrete* channels. There are tons of those these days. Pre-pros can't handle any more *discrete* channels than that AFAIK. I watched a BD the other day that was enhanced for 11.1 audio, I think it is the first, but there are still only 7.1 discrete audio channels, the other channels are derived using one of the few proprietary methods. It is possible to arrange sound to be "better" for the additional derived channels, just like they did for e.g. Dolby Digital 5.1 EX and DTS 5.1 ES for the back channels.
If that seems confusing, and it's all old really by this point, wait until you see what they want you to do with speakers starting very soon...don't know how people will call their HT speaker setups then.
check out the yamaha-rx-z11...
sorry
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-Z9-Theater-Surround-Receiver/dp/B000782SRI
I agree with you that HT #'s can be confusing. Did I say 11.2? Did not mean to. I did see an upscale receiver once that claimed to be 9.1 Forgot even the brand now...I will look into it. If you look back at posts you will see that I asked how many audio channels a DVD had? I had heard 6 and someone else agreed. I believe Blu-Ray discs are the same with the audio tracks. I really don't understand why 7.1 ever came out. One speaker in each corner of the room is good enough for me. But that thinking in only a 2 dimensional world. I suppose having 2 subwoofers might help. But where to place the second? The back of the room? The center of the room? The ceiling? The floor?
The Carver R-150 receiver has a midrange control. I'm sure there are other manufacturers who included such a control -- you just have to look because it's not as common as bass & treble.
A DVD can have more than 5.1 channels. For years there were discs made with DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 soundtracks (these were true 7-channel discs), as well as almost 7 channel soundtracks by using DTS-ES Matrix and Dolby Digital EX encoding.
Is DVD the last movie format? Me thinks not, therefore > 5.1 receivers.
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