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In Reply to: RE: I'll never buy another Samsung TV. posted by Mr. Dick Hertz on September 10, 2017 at 17:54:20
Agree...the plasma's over 51" seemed to be very problematic, even
(some) 51"ers had "pink blotching" issues after a few years. My buddy
got one of the last 60" plasma's, and just stored it in a closet as a spare. Fired it up recently and it had fatal screen issues, washed out
and pink blotching. Ridiculous!. No more Samsung's for us.
Follow Ups:
As TVs become more commodity and more complex at the same time, it seems quality and 'longevity' is going down the tubes.
Family bought 19" Trinitron when they were new. Set lasted until you simply could no longer get the mechanical tuner parts needed for fix. Maybe 20 years?
My Sony SXRD rear projector lasted a few years, thru the first lamp and than started going South due to light engine problems. Even though SONY was a Major Patent Holder in that space. Didn't they know the plastic filters were junk? Why NOT use heat-proof glass?
My Panasonic 50" Plasma? I just took it into the shop for the person I sold it to. Call it a 2011 model.
If my New LG OLED fails I'll be beyond disappointed.
Too much is never enough
Sony knew about the problems with the SXRD. They lost several class action law suites and had to replace everyone's light engine do to the infamous "green blob".Mine lasted a couple of years after that. I won't buy another Sony. My 65" Panny plasma is still going strong, and will hopefully last a long time.
Jack
Yes, and Sony also had the 'deal' where they'd sell you a new 'equivelent' set for a bargain price based on you sending them your SR# tag from the SXRD. One-To-A-Customer.
The 'settlements' amounted to a Wrist Slap. I never heard of the light engine replacement, but who cares? They'd have lasted another 7000 hours or so and than gone south again.
I think the BEST response I could have made was the suit in Small Claims Court. The few that took that route had good results.
I also was badly informed. I don't know if I had done certain things differently I would have preserved my right to sue. Or had I 'opted out' of the class action suit(s) would that have preserved my right to a small claims suit? I didn't know about the class action stuff until Way Late.
I took the Sony deal and doubled my money the NEXT day selling the set, new-in-box.
What still frosts me is that you are 100%. Sony KNEW about the issues from as far back as the line of projection LCD sets they made. Sony owned or 'held' quite a number of Patents concerning light engines and STILL they used plastic filters. All the equipment I ever used for semiconductor photo processes used Heat Proof Glass in the light path.
Are the current line of PROJECTORS still using plastic filters? Any problems with them?
Too much is never enough
Yeah I know all about the economics but still. I have a 42" Panny plasma I bought new in 2008. Works perfectly.
"That was some weird shit".- George Bush
I have a 42" Panasonic Plasma that I bought in 2003 or 2004 for nearly $2K. It still works perfectly. I wish I'd moved faster to get one of the last 60" Panasonics Plasmas, but I did get a 51" Samsung Plasma in 2014....knock on wood, it still works great.
-Rod
Mine was the 8500 series 51". Although the picture wasn't as good as my Panny, it was a nice TV, while it worked.
"That was some weird shit".- George Bush
It's a 51" 5500 series which was all that could be had when they were closed out in January of 2014. Brightness could be better, but it looks awfully good in a dark room.
My only complaint was that it seemed to have some burn in from stations that put those annoying banners on the bottom of the screen. I've since sworn off those channels and it seems to have gone away for the most part.
-Rod
Yea, my Panny had some minor burn in too. I had an NBC4 logo in the bottom right corner, and a PBS News hour in the bottom left. It wasn't too bad though. The settings have white rolling bar you can use for that, but it didn't work. I got the Disney pixel-flipper that was supposed to fix that, but it didn't work either. They eventually went away on their own.
Jack
My 50" Panasonic plasma from 2007 still works great, too. Panasonic also makes a lot of passive components, like caps and resistors, which they use in their own TV's, so no cheapo Chinese caps. With a lot of flat screen problems, 90% of the time it is bad power supply capacitors. If you are handy, they can be replaced fairly easily. I have fixed so many Samsungs by replacing PS caps.
I have the Panasonic Plasma sets (42, 50 and 65). All still work great. I hope they lost a long time.
-Wendell
I think the problems were 2x.
First? Energy consumption of plasma sets is pretty high compared to LED / LCD stuff and later, to the new OLED.
Second? No 4k plasma possible or costs would have been REALLY astronomical. They would have had trouble selling enough sets to justify development costs.
First Pioneer dropped out. The engineers from the KURO days went to Panasonic. Panasonic made the best sets EVER in the last generation, the '60 series) while LG was pretty good and I think there was one other. I think LG was the last to drop? My brother has a 60" LG and it is terrific.
About 1/2 of all sets sold Never have there color adjustments messed with. And sales of the REAL bargain basement stuff is good. That tells me people are MORE than willing to accept commodity television and junk it out when it breaks. Maybe every 3 to 5 years.
Too much is never enough
Yea, its amazing how many people don't even try to calibrate their sets.
Its scary to see otherwise intelligent people watching a picture with green sky.
Jack
And with the aspect ratio not set properly! As if they dont know what shape people should be.....
I changed a few settings for the cinema mode for my Samsung Plasma based on the review from rtings.com that claimed that those minor changes got the set to very close to a professional calibration. I'm not complaining though I hate the way some movies shot everything in the dark to the point that it's all shadows.
-Rod
...have green sky and aren't even connected to a hi-def cable box.
"That was some weird shit".- George Bush
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