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In Reply to: RE: Sony 65" OLED/Mini LED/LED: How to Choose? posted by cin5 on October 04, 2024 at 11:35:51
You posted your inquiry on October 4th. Did you buy a TV yet?I humbly submit that you have overburdened yourself by fixating on Power Consumption resulting in analysis paralysis. If you'll be watching only a couple hours a day does it REALLY matter that much if the TV draws 260-Watts or 460-Watts? If you want a big TV it is going to draw big power.
If all you want is a 1080P TV you can still buy them but they will have smaller lower quality screens at bargain basement prices with picture quality to match. Why? Because the world has moved up to 4K UHD and even 8K UHD. Even if you own no 4K content the upscaling to 4K UHD is pretty amazing so I wouldn't wish for the good ole days of only 1080P TV.
As for screen size, I sit 12 feet away and I am SO glad that I listened to my wife who suggested we consider going up one size. I thought the sweet spot would be 65" and I even taped a piece of cardboard to the wall to represent a 65" TV. It looked a little small as my wife had suggested. We bought a Samsung 75" QLED TV and sitting 12 feet away is just about perfect. We also mounted it slightly above center of eye level. This gave me a little more room under the TV for audio gear. And since I slouch back in the sofa I'm looking slightly up so that worked out well too. There are online guides for ideal TV mounting height and viewing distance. I looked at those guides and decided to mount ours just a bit higher and I'm glad I did.
We also have a new Samsung 55" OLED TV above the fireplace. Samsung OLED technology is brighter than others and the picture quality is amazing. We needed a brighter TV in the family room due to many windows and bright ambient light during the day. The 55" TV height over the fireplace is not ideal but not too bad considering.... Remember, I lean back a bit (slouch) with my head resting against the couch cushion looking slightly upward.
Oh, and it's not just Sony. It's really hard to find the power consumption specs for most TV's. I just looked for the power specs for our Samsung TVs. Can't find them on the manufacturers website or owner's manuals.
Samsung 75-inch Q90T QLED TV installed 2021 in the basement setup
I sit smack in the center of the sofa while listening to music. Wife's spot is her favorite chair off to the side for movie night.
My own albums and Qobuz + Tidal albums up on the big screen.
Album navigation and playback control via iPad (or iPhone)
Did you notice there's no DVD or Blu-ray player? We stream movies in HD or even 4K from services including AppleTV+,
Amazon Prime Video, Netflix, etc. Got rid of the "players" years ago. Sold off all the CD's too.In the setup up above I have a choice of using the fully separate Sonos ARC soundbar and rear channel surround speakers -OR-
the two channel only audio setup you see in the rack. The amp is Class D which is highly efficient, draws very little power at idle,
and runs cool. Class D has come a long way in recent years and it sounds excellent.
Edits: 10/11/24 10/11/24Follow Ups:
Well, it's also that one of my amplifiers-either for the center or L/R speakers-will likely be Class A biased, so the combined power draw could be large. Also someone at this post said that a 65" TV will radiate 100 degrees of thermal energy; more of course for a 75". That plus what my Class A amp will radiate may not be great for my energy bill. So I hope Rtings.com is right about the 65" A95L's average power draw.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/a95l-oled
The good news is that last night I propped up a piece of cardboard that's 48.25" wide; the exact width of the 55" A95L. And it's 32" high; the exact height of the 65" TV, minus the detachable camera. I placed it 11 ft away and it did not look at all small to me. The 65" model is exactly 10" wider, so at 12.5 to 13 ft I doubt I would need a 75" TV.
Btw, though you stream movies rather than use physical media, since you don't use a center speaker, does the dialogue vs. the music levels ever sound unbalanced or lacking clarity?
You gotta do what you gotta do based on your priorities.I'm not sure if I mentioned that our "surround sound" setup is completely separate from the 2-channel stereo system.
When we watch movies we are using the Sonos ARC soundbar just below the TV. It emits center, left, right, and height channels. The setup also has two rear channel speakers for surround and a separate subwoofer (not the two shown in my room photo). These are wireless over Wifi so there's no cable clutter normally associated with surround sound systems.
The dialog and music levels are fine but the soundbar offers the ability to enhance dialog if desired. That feature can come in handy when viewing movies at low volume but we rarely do that. It can also be set to reduce dynamic range so extremely loud scenes (explosions or whatnot) will not have you jumping out of your seat. We don't use that either. We like to be startled.
If we're watching a concert video some of those don't sound great to begin with and I will switch between my 2-channel stereo setup and the Sonos multi-channel system. The 2-channel setup will sometimes sound better for concert videos.
In the past when I had my AV home theater receiver I would integrate it into my main 2-channel system. In other words, the amps in the AV receiver were used for all channels EXCEPT the stereo Left/Right channels which were powered by a much higher quality stereo amp. In that setup I didn't use a center channel so center channel content was fed to the Left/Right channels. I think some folks call that a "phantom" center channel and it works because you still get dialog that sounds like it's coming from the center if that's where it belongs. However, a true center channel would be better in a home theater system.
The Sonos ARC soundbar, Sonos Sub, and Sonos rear speakers do a surprisingly good job considering it's an easy to setup and use "surround sound" system. This is especially good for my wife. Turn on the TV and all the channels associated with the TV are automatically selected. She doesn't even have to turn ON my 2-channel stereo setup. It's probably one of the best "soundbar" based systems out there. If you're real serious about home theater you probably wouldn't go the soundbar route but for us it's perfect. Oh, and did I already mention that except for connecting the soundbar to the TV's eARC HDMI port all the other speakers are wireless so there are no cables running along the baseboards, under the carpet, or up in the ceiling. Setup requires the Sonos App on your iPhone.
And I still have my totally separate 2-channel system for music.
Sonos ARC soundbar, 2 wireless rear speakers, and square donut subwoofer:
Just like our Sonos system but ours is black
Edits: 10/12/24
I agree on all.
Power consumption is not something I would have ever considered. Our old 50" plasma (bedroom) probably eats power at a high rate, but it is what it is.
And definitely be sure a 65" is going to work. We regretted buying our 65" the instant we turned it on. We were happy the thing died about 14 minutes after the 1-year warranty.
Even our 75"... 85's were pretty costly at the time still, still are, but that'd be our preference for the living room. I sit around 16' away, wife usually around 14' or so.
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