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Imagine if you only ate American food everyday.

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Posted on January 12, 2021 at 14:00:56
tinear
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 Well, by restricting yourself to American/English language film, you're doing about the same thing, aren't you?

No Mexican.
No Chinese.
No Korean.
No Italian.
No French.

It's a big, beautiful world out there...

 

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Truly profound . . . give us more! *, posted on January 12, 2021 at 16:20:17
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Eat what you like, watch what you like., posted on January 12, 2021 at 17:05:03
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 I don't know what nationality most of our dinners are TBH. Wife cooks it, we eat it. Weekends
we generally go something along what you mentioned.
Movies... I don't really see a correlation, watch whatever entertains you.

 

RE: Imagine if you only ate American food everyday., posted on January 12, 2021 at 18:24:46
Bill the K
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 No Indian
No Thai
No Vietnamese
No Spanish
No Greek

Bill



 

Who's restricting themselves? You're incredibly presumptuous... , posted on January 12, 2021 at 23:54:45
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 Which isn't quite as ugly as snobbish, but certainly too close for comfort.


"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

"Watch whatever entertains you"... +1 (nt), posted on January 13, 2021 at 06:57:03
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 NT

 

I guess it's a coincidence 99.9% of posts are American/English language, then? , posted on January 13, 2021 at 10:57:21
tinear
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 You appear to have an anger management problem?

 

RE: I guess it's a coincidence 99.9% of posts are American/English language, then? , posted on January 13, 2021 at 11:31:32
rivervalley817
 you have mistaken 'pith' for anger Tin

which is understandable as Merriam-Webster attributes the coinage of pithy to Leo Durocher who used the expression in the vernacular of cheating at cards or baseball ... not so however, he merely established the vernacular

though not a minor point, it's my pedant for the day

with regards,





 

Not a coincidence, posted on January 13, 2021 at 12:27:47
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 If it is indeed 99.9% American movie posts (I don't think it is), it's only because they're all watching what they enjoy. Nobody is limiting themselves to what they want to watch, they're watching exactly what they decide upon. We all have differing tastes, nobody should judge others for watching what they prefer to watch.
Maybe join a foreign films forum if you can't find many others who enjoy the same as you here.
I didn't see musetap as angry, only bumped back at what appeared to be being judged.
Just what I read in this... my opinion only.

 

I post maybe... maybe... about 2% of what I watch here and don't imagine..., posted on January 13, 2021 at 13:20:14
musetap
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 anyone here posts much more than that.

Pretty sure most the posters here have done film 101 and don't "need" a recap.

So, yeah math wizard, do some more math.

I only have anger management problems with hypocrites and boors expounding
snobbish attributes on others because they think they "know" better.



"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

Pizza and hot dogs aren't really American. Nt, posted on January 13, 2021 at 15:23:58
geoffkait
 Nt

 

Americans fast-fooded it. Our gift to the world. nt, posted on January 13, 2021 at 15:58:36
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Angry little fella, huh? nt, posted on January 13, 2021 at 15:59:40
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RE: Not a coincidence, posted on January 13, 2021 at 16:01:36
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 No one singled him out. Obviously, he felt wounded. Poor little guy. He's still not over it, either. And I hardly was being critical. I pointed it out, used no judging terms.

 

Thank YOU! Nice summation... THIS may be the ONLY time..., posted on January 13, 2021 at 16:57:49
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 we agree on something!

 

Fair enough , posted on January 13, 2021 at 17:51:35
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 Fair enough on your not being critical. It seemed to me that you were insinuating people who only watched American films (includes me) were losing out, missing something.

 

RE: Imagine if you only ate American food everyday., posted on January 13, 2021 at 18:48:25
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 I used to watch movies with sub-titles but my lips would get tired so I quit.





'A lie is halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on'. -Mark Twain

 

Sad, posted on January 13, 2021 at 18:56:14
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 I like lots of English language films. However I have come to prefer European films and it makes me sad when I talk to people who won't watch subtitles because I feel they are missing out on what I consider some of the very best films.

I also feel sad when I talk to people who won't watch 40s and 50s Hollywood Film Noir because it's old and in B&W.

It's just a natural desire to share something special with others.

 

If you think so then you're at least one of the two types listed... , posted on January 13, 2021 at 22:53:33
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 Maybe both?

Average height BTW.

"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

I suspect we agree on far more than either of us will ever admit..., posted on January 13, 2021 at 23:17:04
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 Only to be overshadowed by... the usual suspects!

Which is a very good movie even IF it's... American!

Which reminds me of Casablanca, also good, also... American.




"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

LOL! (nt), posted on January 13, 2021 at 23:30:04
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 NT

 

Sad it IS, posted on January 14, 2021 at 05:28:16
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+1 (nt), posted on January 14, 2021 at 06:05:18
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Thank you. Why is liking things from other countries "snobbish" or "elite?" , posted on January 14, 2021 at 07:09:15
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 Jingoism is ignorance.

 

I wasn't insinuating! I absolutely mean that. You ARE missing a lot, posted on January 14, 2021 at 07:14:18
tinear
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 if you don't watch foreign films. I have a passion for American film, but that doesn't mean I'm being somehow disloyal by also loving foreign films.

 

"Art" vs "Commercial." Art film directors don't deal in easy answers but, posted on January 14, 2021 at 07:31:27
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 rather in questions. "The sign of a master is that he deals in questions, not resolutions and that he pulls us away from the payoffs of plot and into the maze of inquiry."

One is passive, i.e. "eat this!"
The other is active, i.e. "what is this?"

 

But I just want to know: why are foreign movies so. . . foreign? [nt], posted on January 14, 2021 at 09:45:59
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"For your punishment, you must only listen to American music!" nt, posted on January 14, 2021 at 10:57:04
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It isn't. I like LOTS of things from other countries (movies too)..., posted on January 14, 2021 at 11:41:32
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 Yet you DON'T see anyone accusing me of being a snob or elitist.

Why is that?

"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

RE: Imagine if you only ate American food everyday., posted on January 14, 2021 at 13:19:03
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 Some of the best exploitation films come from elsewhere. Take a dive into the works of Jess Franco, Walerian Borowczyk, Alejandro Jodorowsky, Tinto Brass, Umberto Lenzi, etc. and then there are the style over substance directors such as Mario Bava and Dario Argento. Some of these guys showcased emerging beauties like Soledad Miranda and Marie Liljedahl and others provided continued work for Hollywood stars like Carroll Baker. It's not all high-brow stuff. They exploited everything from Nazism to Catholicism. Just look at some of the sub genres - women in prison, convents, sexual exploitation of horror, giallo/murder, etc.

Fellini, Bergman, Truffaut/Godard/Bresson are great directors of course, but trash cinema is the way to learn about a culture and particularly its seedy underbelly. Plus, you cant' beat the music scores in many of these flicks - I'm neck deep in soundtracks from Piero Umiliani and Piero Piccioni as we speak. (US has its fair share of depravity from early John Waters, Herschell Gordon Lewis, Doris Wishman, Russ Meyer etc. as well as very stylish directors like Radley Metzger. Watch the grave-side service scene in Meyer's Mudhoney. It starts with a fire and brimstone sermon from a scary preacher and ends with a fight between a hitchhiker and a drunk who tips the casket, body and drunk falling into the grave together. The movie as a whole is bland but that one scene is probably the best of the southern grotesque I've seen on film. It rivals anything written by Faulkner. For those who never got to see it in person at travelling carnivals, watch the dizzying Wall of Death scene in Metzger's The Lickerish Quartet.) Film as art is fine, but if you want to be amused, shocked, bewildered, or generally entertained start with Eurotrash cinema and go from there for your spicy foods.

 

That's the thing tho, posted on January 14, 2021 at 21:43:20
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 To you people are missing a lot. I've seen tidbits of some of what you mentioned, does nothing for me.
Maybe I can compare using music. Let's say you don't like heavy metal, or rap, or country... why would someone try to convince you to listen to it?
What you enjoy is better to you, it's not necessarily "better". Same goes for what all of us like, it's better only if it's better to the beholder.

 

I don't believe I ever said only to eat cuisine. nt, posted on January 15, 2021 at 18:03:50
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Again, never said "better." And I meant that folks that refuse, posted on January 15, 2021 at 18:10:10
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 all foreign food ARE missing something.
Your music analogy? How about someone who only likes American folk. Period. Who's to say they're "wrong?"
I'm just saying categorically to rule out other things is strange.
I'd also mention that seeing "tidbits" of the oeuvre of world cinema probably isn't a great way to base such an enormous decision?

But maybe I'm misreading you. Maybe you didn't mean that you only appreciate American film after tastes of foreign films?

Lastly, with all the amazing variety of foreign film, to say one doesn't care for any of it--- that's just bizarre. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you.
As far as convincing others: where's the harm? I was introduced to foreign film by others that were enthusiastic. I'm very grateful to them and just passing it on.

 

RE: Again, never said "better." And I meant that folks that refuse, posted on January 15, 2021 at 18:24:46
rivervalley817
 Hollywood sure has an appetite for foreign films

look at how many get remade with US marquee stars!

regards,

 

OK, posted on January 15, 2021 at 20:21:11
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 Agrre, if you don't ever try say Korean food, one is "missing" that food, as in they have not had an opportunity to try it. That said, nothing wrong with someone making that decision.
I don't personally categorically rule out anything, but I don't go out of my way to try new things either, just not the adventurous type.
I don't consider it an enormous decision at all, either I watch something or I don't. If a movie looks interesting I'll try it, if not... pass.
I get your interest, passion, I'm just more passive about movies.

 

Acknowledged., posted on January 16, 2021 at 08:07:28
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 The tone of the thread seemed to go that way. Although I gravitate to the subversive, Fellini's 8 1/2 is my favorite mid-life crisis film.

 

How to find these films with Netflix?, posted on January 18, 2021 at 17:48:08
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 I love reading subtitles. Where do I find these movies?

 

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