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By the time an American kid is 12, he has seen the throats slashed 12,543 times, objects thrust in the bodies 6,353 times, people hacked to pieces about ten thousand times. So they always talk about desensitization. Fair enough... but still, sometimes a particular episode sticks in your memory.
What's yours?
Mine came from the fairly lame movie Drive... yes, I know, rated very highly on imdb, but still just a B movie, in my view.
However, the arm slashing episode I can't get out of my mind. I wonder, what made it this different, that it keeps bothering me?
If you have not seen the film - don't be in a rush... unless you have super-hots for Christina Hendricks, who gets her head blown off, for playing a minor role there.
Clearly, somewhere in a dark room in the middle of the Hollywood there is a group of young (they got to be young...) perverts, trying to invent the new ways of shocking us.
And sometimes they even succeed.
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Poor one I could not stand it.
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It is real harcore.
Even the Kirylle is a mystery to me, the act not....
The open door scene is bone marrow chilling.
.....is it safe!
-Steve
Nt
wait 'til you meet up with this oral surgeon. ;-)
-Steve
... Henry crashes a TV set over the head of a guy and says to Ottis, "Plug it in." And, Ottis plugs it in.Also the final killing scene which isn't shown, only an implied act. Cold. Real.
J
Edits: 11/03/13 11/07/13
d
Good to see you are still alive and kicking. I don't come to Films very often. I am afraid I might get talked into watching some horrid foreign film. Go Ducks!
d
Yep, the wheels fell off. Both OSU and U of O had terrible Novembers. How are you doing? You had us worried when you just vanished from this site.
d
Come over to the Green Door and join us. You can use a different user name. I won't tell. We run a more tightly moderated forum than Outside.
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If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing well
(Proverb)
I kept saying to myself "there is no way they can make this". About a year later it was released and our local projectionist and theater manager were promptly arrested after the first matinee. Things have changed, haven't they?
our theater manager just before the showing of the movie that night, it would have saved me from going to see the therapist after.
If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing well
(Proverb)
His portrayal seemed very twisted and violent, and yet somehow, more realistic, than most of the stuff I've seen.
(Probably didn't hurt that I was pretty high when I saw it.)
My two cents worth anyway.
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As Ken Kesey's Merry Pranksters used to say, "A acid trip without
Nitrous Oxide is like a birthday cake without frosting." I think that
is actually understated: the only thing more dramatic to an acid trip
than nitrous is DMT. Not for the timid. But the rewards are inestimable.
Regards,
J.R.
Hot rod Nitrous is industrial grade, not suitable for human consumption.
Only medical grade, in the blue tanks, is safe. And it is, after all,
an anesthetic: people can lose consciousness doing it and injure
themselves in a variety of bizarre fashions like frostbitten lips and
other such unpleasantries. And it does not support life; it's not
oxygen: the apocrypha about teenagers passing out in Volkswagens and
dying could have some basis in fact. Never wear a mask doing it. Except
at the dentists of course. Regards,
J.R.
get so much of it for their cars?
"LSD is like letting a lion out of a cage; STP is climbing into the cage with the lion."
Nt
Or are you going to regale us with your bullshit epic STP trip again.
Read any Castaneda yet? Regards,
J.R.
balloon.
Saved a LOT of time waiting in line for access to the tank.
For a while I worked at a restaurant in SF located on the bottom floor of a small
building with a (successful) dentists office above, where we had an open invitation
to visit and indulge between patients, which included at least one Grateful Dead member.
Inestimable indeed!
Ahhhh... the good old days... IF I remember properly...
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" - Michael McClure
Nt
A few will get the giggles, but that's a pretty minor effect. William
James, the brother of the venerable American novelist Henry James, wrote
about his nitrous fascination in his "The Varieties of Religious
Experience". Though he talked all stuffy-like about is with the usual
Christian mysticism allegations and such, he was basically a lover of
the gas. Dare a say a "huffer?" In combination with acid or peyote
it is one of the strongest psychedelic experiences available, comparable
to even Ayahuasca. Regards,
J.R.
Nt
Many a time, after a day of hiking and exploring the Chihuahuan desert
in Big Bend while adjusted on acid or peyote or mescaline, when I returned
to my truck I would grab an ice cold Guinness out of the cooler before
I even took off my pack or sat down. It's so creamy when poured ice cold
into one of those blue enameled Mexican cups when it's so hot the lizards
are hiding. Regards,
J.R.
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Maybe it was the fact I was 12 when I saw it during its initial release (I had a very liberal mother), but the axes cutting into the sleeping bag and what seemed his character getting decapitated stayed with me for years. To this day it still creeps me out, and I've only seen it twice since even though I have it on disc.
John K.
... actually they were beaten with the pistol handles and buried alive
nothing is more boring than the truth - bukowski
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Maybe because I was younger when I watched it, but the human skinning and hooks pulling apart flesh scenes will forever be engraved in my mind.
referring to his own terrible pain which exceeded being nailed to a cross
his words not mine ;^)
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for determining movie quality. A very innovative thinker. In addition he almost single handedly cost Sam Rothstein his job as Executive Manager of the Tangiers. He was "as worthless as tits on a boar."
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…left an imprint in my memory. "Come and See" is a Russian horror show. I've rarely gone out of my way to watch Grand Guignol, and it's the unexpected moments that stay with me. Those were 2 that caught me off guard.
Saw it once, wish I didn't, mostly because I know that shit was very, very real and accurate.
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makes me queasy just to think about them
the Scarface scene was set up to really scare you and the tooth pulling scene in Oldboy was so explicit and close up they both worked on me
Bardem had described the latest cartel method of execution much earlier in the film and sure enough it happened to Pitt. I don't want to spoil it but it involves buckets of blood.
Edits: 10/31/13
Fortunately, no one has yet filmed death by 1,000 cuts in real time.
I never thought I would see Albert Brooks in such a serious role. He rocked.
Off hand the one that comes to mind is Seven, the knife suit scene; it was mostly implied IIRC. A number of people left the theater when this scene came on; I wish I would have.
My ex liked movies such as this, I never have. Never seen a Jason movie, Machete, etc., never will. Generally don't watch TV shows that have anything even remotely gory, or even killing for the most part... So hopefully my children see MUCH less than the numbers you stated.
That was over the top tho. Gritsy recommended this one and I'm gratedful for that, Mrs. Nasty, on the other hand, would like to have a word with him.
The scene you related was played in an offhanded, "matter of fact", way, i.e., two professionals who knew the score with no over the top dramatics added by the director. In execution, it reminded me of how Hank's demise was played in the Breaking Bad or how the two "heroes" were left for dead in The Way of the Gun by the bagman.
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Mud was nothing compared to the psychopathic behavior of Joe. 'Dallas Buyer's Club' is opening somewhere this weekend and I saw the previews here a couple of months ago and thought MM had been digitally processed to look that emaciated. Just saw where he lost 50lbs for the role...he had about 0% body fact to begin with...how did he do it?
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And Ol' Matty M. did his part with the moanin' and groanin'. That was one of the more, ummmm, *interesting* movies I've seen. It's hard to imagine another cast of characters with whom I could have so little empathy - talk about yer white trash!!
-RW-
than just about the entire cast of American Horror Story, Asylum.
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