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In Reply to: RE: Red Army Documentary...USSR Hockey...has anybody seen this? posted by Mark Man on November 23, 2014 at 09:53:55
Like most guys growing up in the USSR, I liked watching the hockey, but that love since then has dissipated. When the US team beat the Soviets, I was upset, but that was long ago, and now I am firmly on the other side - I am so happy our boys showed them russkies.A couple of things about this film, based purely on the trailer - one: what's the deal with the name Slava (Fetisov). No one would call an adult that way, his name is Viacheslav.
And two - as soon as I saw the face of Vladimir Posner there, I rushed for the bucket - that communist scum would simply not go away.
I think I will watch it when it hits the Netflix, but I don't expect any revelations there.
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lacking in others (except maybe the Finns or Swedes, long ago).
American and Canadian style is kind of like boxing on ice. Or rugby. Ugly.
Those college kids are a blast to watch...very similar to the CCCP style of hockey...
thanks
Mark
Ps. The NHL has been making rule changes to help open up the game...The most recent is the 2-line pass is now legal...more room behind the nets and along with wider and longer sheets of ice...
They are "trying" to foster more scoring...hence the 2-line pass...
most skilled players, but that may be a bridge-too-far.
Take a look at the latest season of Lilyhammer, there is the Brazilian connection there!
And not bad looking either! :)
Not knowing much about the internal politics of USSR in the 70's and early 80's...this trailer has peaked my interest to learn more about this...
The first thing I wondered about as a kid, these guys were considered soldiers??? The majority of photos I remember they were dressed in Military uniforms...I think that image added to the "dislike" of the CCCP worldwide, in the Hockey playing countries...they never took their foot off the gas, running up scores to exhibit their dominance in the hockey world...IMHO...this was a reflection of USSR's persona as super power...
They seemed very "machine like" and had a lack of emotion, because they were expected to win every game...I feel we in the USA, did not understand the immense pressure these hockey players were under...The level of national pride that was put on a sports team is hard to fathom...
The amateur status of the USA fed the "David verses Goliath" match up...But what people forget, the NHL put together All-Star teams to try and compete with the CCCP...they still got crushed...
I have not looked this up, but I believe they had a winning streak that may never be seen again in international competition in any sport...
As a former hockey player, I was a fan first and foremost of the CCCP...they really did change the game worldwide with their style of play...The political significance of this team within the USSR, is what I hope to get from this documentary...
Thanks for chiming in...
Mark
...who played for the Army club, like Fetisov did. I have never seen them in uniforms, but most likely they were - officially - armed forces personnel. None of them had served one day in the military, though.
ALL players had some official "professions" or occupation, and often they had to show up at some factory to receive their monthly pay, but in reality they played hockey 100% of their time, every day.
There is no question about their skills - in that regard ice hockey was probably comparable to the soviet ballet in their level of perfection.
The players enjoyed standards of living much higher than the average citizen, but still, extremely modest by the Western standards. I recall how much was made of Tretiak receiving a Toyota car as some gift or prize. Naturally, many of them moved to the West at first opportunity.
thanks
Mark
...ЦСКА.Just one of many such clubs. Those are clown costumes, not uniforms.
BTW, their insignia is from the Ministry of the Interior, the organization more known for mass executions than any battle achievements.
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This is what you get when you have the whole government structure behind you. In that regard the sport in the USSR was an ideological weapons, the situation somewhat similar to that in East Germany or China, where young kids are basically thrown into it at the age of 4 or 5.
I just remembered military uniforms...costumes or not...looking from the USA, they sure looked "military"...rather intimidating from a hockey team...all part of the mystic for me...
thanks
Mark
Ps Was this part of the propaganda machine???
In a militaristic society army always takes the predominant position.
Here's more "military men".
Nice...
It looks like they could put a 6-pack under the hood of those hats...
Thanks again for chiming in...this is a subject, that I know very little about...but was a big fan of the CCCP as a Hockey player growing up in the 70's...they were the BEST...
Hockey in Russia, is the equivalent of scorer in Brazil...good analogy...totally agree...back then, the Czech's were their closest competition...
It does make this Documentary very intriguing to me...
Mark
I watched every international game... the internal championship did not excite me. The Swedes could also play, and the Canadians would normally be behind these three.
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They were capable of creating some upsets, but generally - number 5.
Thanks
Mark
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Shitty yellow color too.He's got two of them.
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