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RE: The unfogivable has happened . . .

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In Reply to: RE: The unfogivable has happened . . . posted by Billy Wonka on July 14, 2019 at 13:06:30

I couldn't agree more, but for me it happened even before Connery was gone from the scene. If you were a devotee of the novels ( I still reread them), they went askew completely starting with the movie "You Only Live Twice". That movie bore little resemblance to the book. Later ones only continued (I thought there was some minor redemption with Craig's first Bond movie).

Also, even in the Connery movies, Bond's character morphed into a sarcastic, prank playing, witty god to women. The actual (i.e. written) Bond was not funny, and was a very hard man, almost with a depressing sense of future doom. Obviously, this won't sell many movies.

I would guess that if Fleming had lived longer, he would have been very much against the different bond that showed up in the movies.

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Dr. No and FRWL were VERY accurate to the books and Craig could... - musetap 10:44:40 07/15/19 (6)
have pulled off those with his weary and sullen attitude.

Connery did them well. Goldfinger too, though the action packed aspect
started to bloom there.

The veering off the Fleming path really started with Thunderball and
went straight to the top of the box office from there.

Connery held tight.

By Diamonds Are Forever Connery was too aware of the joke and was
replaced by A joke - Roger Moore. OHMSS was a mistake big mistake,
thusly Moore.

It's been a rough ride since. The original Casino Royale was a spoof
of James Bond movies while James Bond movies were basically still in
their prime.

Craig and the series turnaround was impressive.

We here are all too old to appreciate ANY new James Bond at this point and
whoever was cast of whichever sex or race would have elicited a negative
vibe.

"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
- I would love to see a reboot following the books and time period . . . - Billy Wonka 11:53:49 07/17/19 (0)
  They would be a lot cheaper to make and require real acting.
- Spoof - BillH 13:30:36 07/15/19 (4)
  Maybe someone will go back in the Playboy Magazine files and resurrect the "Israel Bond" sendup by Shel Silverstein from the 1960s.
  
  Israel Bond drove a Rambler (I think), wore Hushpuppies shoes, and smoked Raleigh cigarettes for the coupons.
  - Or Flint, which seemed like a MAD script though Coburn was tre cool... N/T - musetap 13:48:49 07/15/19 (3)
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    "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
    - I use the Flint ringtone. Excuse me, it's Donald, again. * - Billy Wonka 16:07:18 07/15/19 (2)
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      - Tell him I said to go fu.... - musetap 13:23:52 07/16/19 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I use the Flint ringtone. Excuse me, it's Donald, again. * posted by Billy Wonka on July 15, 2019 at 16:07:18
        
        oh, never mind, too easy.
        
        "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
      - RE: I use the Flint ringtone. Excuse me, it's Donald, again. * - pictureguy 16:31:15 07/15/19 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I use the Flint ringtone. Excuse me, it's Donald, again. * posted by Billy Wonka on July 15, 2019 at 16:07:18
        
        I've been using the 'flint' ringtone for years.
        James Coburn was in 'Our Man Flint' and 'In Like Flint', near the peak of the spy spoof genre.
        Of course, Coburn was also in 'The President's Analyst'.....another sendup.
        AFAIK, the 2nd string in such movies was Matt Helm.....played to a 'TEE' by Dean Martin.
        But for MY nickel? The best single spy movie? Woody Allen bought an ENTIRE Japanese Movie. Recut, new sound track and replotted. (The SEARCH for the perfect Egg Salad Recipe, of all things!)
        Featuring the attrative 'Yaki' sisters.....Suki and Teri........For fans of Allen, only.
        'Whats Up Tiger Lily' is a must see.
        
        Too much is never enough
        https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062153/ (Open in New Window)
        
        Edits: 07/15/19

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