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In Reply to: RE: "I'm surprised it has not been banned".... give the liberals time.... posted by TWB on July 17, 2019 at 12:59:33
Complete and utter nonsense.
Follow Ups:
Guess your'e not paying much attention...
The painting should remain and an explanation of the artist intent, to show the brutality and genocide of a people to open the west to settlers, be placed if front of it.
"Trying is the first step towards failure."
Homer Simpson
there are certain factions of the public that are trying to re-write history... Taking down statues that THEY find offensive and taking down flags that THEY find offensive. The point of history is to LEARN from it NOT erase it! You might find the attached link interesting.... another 20 years, and the U.S. will be RIGHT where the UK is right now....the above actions are just the beginning and starting point...
was when the U.S. government let the Daughters of the Confederacy write the history books for schools all over the country framing the confederacy and the civil war as a noble cause and not the lost cause of secession and continuation of slavery that it was.
"Trying is the first step towards failure."
Homer Simpson
I was reared and educated in the North, and received a North Eastern version of a victor's guide to history: The Civil War was about ending slavery.
I discovered the other side of the story upon attending college (and relocating) in the south. I discovered that the CW as the last battle of the Constitution. Were we to be a confederation of sovereign states, and a comparatively weak Federal Govt, or were we to become a Federal nation, with member states. As sovereign states, each state can decide to participate, or not. As a Federal nation, each state is compelled by force to participate. The single greatest expansion of Federal power occurred during the CW, as Lincoln essentially became a dictator in order to preserve the Union.
Slavery was an issue, but not the root cause for the North to prosecute the war. As always it was about money and power.
A deeper investigation would lead one to investigate the roles of export markets, tariffs, duties, excise taxes, agrarian vs industrial economies, and representation in Congress.
NT
None of what you say alters the truth in what he said about the Daughters and the rewrite of textbooks. That is fact.
It is true that the war was about more than slavery and I don't disagree with the litany of causes you mention.
Right! Since when does the loser get to write their history?
"Trying is the first step towards failure."
Homer Simpson
We've had to endure 3+ years of someone giving excuses in perpetuity as to why they lost... so the tradition continues.....
Find another axe to grind. You're sounding like a whiner.
facts Sonodik...
You're wasting your time. The truth is lost on some people. They can't handle it.
That stuff should be in museums rather than in everyone's face.
Given that our exchange violates forum rules regarding political discussions it's safe to assume that this conversation will soon be obliterated. Until then I'll say this: When you talk about Liberals, or any other group for that matter, you need to be more careful about painting all members of that group with the same brush. And if you think removal of those statues is about re-writing history, you've completely missed the point.
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