Films/DVD Asylum

RE: I do

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Sondek

In Reply to: RE: I do posted by grantv on July 17, 2019 at 16:57:05

IMO, the franchise began to die with Thunderball. Rigor mortise fully set in with Diamonds. After the Casino reboot, I honestly had high hopes it heralded the resurrection of the series, but then it went straight into the crapper with the second effort. Too bad, but it's gone.

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Internet doesn't back that up. - grantv 08:57:48 07/23/19 (2)
A quick search (other results may vary), including inflation, shows Skyfall in 2012 as the highest grossing Bond film ever. Spectre in 2015 is 4th.
You may not like them, but by no means are they in the crapper.
As I said before, some are very corny, but still enjoyable...
- RE: Internet doesn't back that up. - Sondek 13:48:19 07/25/19 (1)
  Are those inflation adjusted? And since when is the crap level measured by how much money they gross?
  According to Box Office Mojo, Sky grossed $1.1b compared to an inflation adjusted Thunderball at $1.05b. So in 47 years, they've made virtually no progress on and inflation adjusted basis.
  If you enjoy the films that's fine by me. I don't particularly care for them. The ones I enjoy the most are the first three. They were the most true to the Fleming books. For me they're the best because they're carried by their underlying story and the shear gravitas of the character. They were spy stories with a bit of fantasy thrown in. Each successive film became more fantasy and gimmickry, and less and less about spy and frankly less about Bond. That's why I had such high hopes that the Casino reboot was a return to the original balance between spy and fantasy. Sadly, it didn't turn out that way with the following Craig films.
  
  Edits: 07/25/19 07/25/19
  - Yes, inflation adjusted as I noted in the post prior. - grantv 09:35:16 07/29/19 (0)
    I generally perceive "in the crapper" as something failing financially. Otherwise it's simply subjective. If you view that term subjectively then carry on. As I also said, Connery is still my fave, so it's not like I care one way or the other. I do feel the new ones are fine to some degree; I did not like them all...

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