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How does it stack up to "Kramer vs Kramer?" nt

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In Reply to: RE: Liked Marriage Story... posted by Bill the K on March 22, 2020 at 08:16:51

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RE: How does it stack up to "Kramer vs Kramer?" nt - Bill the K 23:00:41 03/24/20 (0)
Sorry, did not like Kramer.

Bill
RE: How does it stack up to "Kramer vs Kramer?" nt - RGA 22:18:09 03/23/20 (3)
I had it lower on my list out of the films nominated because of Kramer VS Kramer and because it's not particularly original. Perhaps because I see this sort of story play out in my real life with friends in a similar situation.

Perhaps I should not but I give a little more credit to more ambitious and riskier efforts like JoJo Rabbit or even the Joker or 1917 or Pnce Upon a Time in Hollywood. Even if these films fail in a number of ways - they reach for a little bit more and take more risks than a Marriage Story, Little Women or The Irishman.

So do we take a low risk film that hits at 100% or a film that takes more risks in ambition and maybe hits at 80%

I had issues with Parasite but I do feel it was a more ambitious film in terms of ideas and visuals and storytelling. So I rank it a bit higher than Marriage Story or Irishman etc.
- On the risk/ambition scale I'd say JOJO Rabbit wins by a couple lengths... - musetap 15:22:11 03/24/20 (2)
  If only for "How about one more Heil for old times sake?"
  
  Better than a flame thrower on a theatre full of nazi basterds (is that redundant?)!
  
  "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
  - RE: On the risk/ambition scale I'd say JOJO Rabbit wins by a couple lengths... - RGA 17:20:22 03/25/20 (1)
    Well JoJo Rabbit was my favorite film of the lot. But I also know these kinds of films rarely win best picture because satire is difficult to pull off when confronted with a literal minded viewer. And I have read negative reviews outlining why some didn't like it. Polarizing films have a tough road to win best picture. Which is usually why I have disagree with the Oscar winning film most years. I ranked Parasite 5th but I was okay with it because, at least, it wasn't a by the numbers film and it was well done for what it was. I might watch it again down the line.
    But JoJo Rabbit blends Ann Frank with Mel Brooks' The Producers. I get why some were turned off by its tonal shifts from dire to silly. That's the risk and if it succeeds, as it did for me, it was the best movie of the lot. If it doesn't - you'll wonder why they nominated it. Trump fans won't like it because it forces them to look in the mirror, or it will go over their heads.
    Taking a film through the lens of a child and a first time actor (Roman Griffin Davis) to star in about 90% of the movie is also a risk.
    This is good interview with the director where he mentions a few tidbits - like the Beatles song sung by the Beatles in German and the use of colour etc.
    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYBJHBm7LKY (Open in New Window)
    Edits: 03/25/20 03/25/20
    - Yeah, JOJO Rabbit lingers like all great art... - musetap 12:44:38 03/26/20 (0)
      much more so than any of the other top contenders.
      
      We finally saw 1917 the other night.
      
      FINE to watch, poetic, interestingly put together but no Paths to Glory.
      
      Didn't need to be though a certain been there, done that re war movies.
      
      I'm thinking JOJO Rabbit is favorite of the proposed "Best Movies" of
      last year, for the reasons you have mentioned and because it is, ultimately,
      great art.
      
      But I'm not a fast and hard Top fill-in-the blank kinda guy.
      
      I always leave room for serendipity, before, during, after the experience.
      
      "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
LIGHT YEARS better IMO! I always thought that K vs. K was over-rated ... - TWB 20:11:59 03/23/20 (0)
Driver and Johansson do a much better job IMO of displaying the raw emotions involved in a couple going through divorce.. I KNOW , I did it! As far as K vs. K goes Streep is good at playing a self-serving you know what so there is that... and Hoffman... well he is just playing Hoffman. Baumbach the writer/director of Marriage Story is very talented and I expect more great things from him in the future. I think Adam Driver is a terrific actor and IMO could be the heir apparent to the likes of Spencer Tracy who I greatly admire...Marriage Story really IS a great movie from the dialogue, performances, and Randy Newman's score for anyone that has NOT seen it, do so... you won't regret it!

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