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a lot. Scarlette J should have won the Oscar, I thought. I didn't think Dern had a sufficiently long enough role to win Supporting. Driver was very good too. Excellent screenplay and music. Very good movie.
Bill
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films?
"A Separation."
"The Past."
(yes, you must read subtitles)
I think I will like the Farhadi movie. Not sure of The Past. With hearing fading these days I depend on subtitles for all movies! Thanks.
Bill
Yeah I knew Scarlett wasn't going to win in the best actress category (as it was pretty much guaranteed for Renee in Judy), so I was hoping Scarlett would have won best supporting actress in JoJo Rabbit. Two great performances 2 nominations - zilch. I though her performance in JoJo was better than Dern's in Marriage Story.
And I always like seeing Alan Alda pop up from time to time.
JoJo was my favorite movie last year.
Which is distinctly different from being Academy award worthy.
I just like what I like.
Having been through a rough marriage and a divorce, I despised Marriage Story, for personal reasons.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
reason! Yes it was painful to watch and it brought back all of those memories... but that is why I hated K vs. K.. It was Robert Benton's saccharin look at divorce... All it did for me was remind me how good Meryl Streep is at playing a.... well you know...and Hoffman was Hoffman...Marriage Story explored (IMO) what a person goes through in that situation. I texted my children and my ex (who is a movie buff as well) to tell them to watch it and my ex replied that she had not had to guts to watch it... but I assured her that it was well worth whatever pain it might cause to experience it.. Easily for me it was the best movie I saw last year. But, I have not seen some other films that I may end up liking as much if not more...like possibly JoJo, etc.
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Sorry, did not like Kramer.
Bill
I had it lower on my list out of the films nominated because of Kramer VS Kramer and because it's not particularly original. Perhaps because I see this sort of story play out in my real life with friends in a similar situation.
Perhaps I should not but I give a little more credit to more ambitious and riskier efforts like JoJo Rabbit or even the Joker or 1917 or Pnce Upon a Time in Hollywood. Even if these films fail in a number of ways - they reach for a little bit more and take more risks than a Marriage Story, Little Women or The Irishman.
So do we take a low risk film that hits at 100% or a film that takes more risks in ambition and maybe hits at 80%
I had issues with Parasite but I do feel it was a more ambitious film in terms of ideas and visuals and storytelling. So I rank it a bit higher than Marriage Story or Irishman etc.
If only for "How about one more Heil for old times sake?"
Better than a flame thrower on a theatre full of nazi basterds (is that redundant?)!
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
Well JoJo Rabbit was my favorite film of the lot. But I also know these kinds of films rarely win best picture because satire is difficult to pull off when confronted with a literal minded viewer. And I have read negative reviews outlining why some didn't like it. Polarizing films have a tough road to win best picture. Which is usually why I have disagree with the Oscar winning film most years. I ranked Parasite 5th but I was okay with it because, at least, it wasn't a by the numbers film and it was well done for what it was. I might watch it again down the line.But JoJo Rabbit blends Ann Frank with Mel Brooks' The Producers. I get why some were turned off by its tonal shifts from dire to silly. That's the risk and if it succeeds, as it did for me, it was the best movie of the lot. If it doesn't - you'll wonder why they nominated it. Trump fans won't like it because it forces them to look in the mirror, or it will go over their heads.
Taking a film through the lens of a child and a first time actor (Roman Griffin Davis) to star in about 90% of the movie is also a risk.
This is good interview with the director where he mentions a few tidbits - like the Beatles song sung by the Beatles in German and the use of colour etc.
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much more so than any of the other top contenders.
We finally saw 1917 the other night.
FINE to watch, poetic, interestingly put together but no Paths to Glory.
Didn't need to be though a certain been there, done that re war movies.
I'm thinking JOJO Rabbit is favorite of the proposed "Best Movies" of
last year, for the reasons you have mentioned and because it is, ultimately,
great art.
But I'm not a fast and hard Top fill-in-the blank kinda guy.
I always leave room for serendipity, before, during, after the experience.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
Driver and Johansson do a much better job IMO of displaying the raw emotions involved in a couple going through divorce.. I KNOW , I did it! As far as K vs. K goes Streep is good at playing a self-serving you know what so there is that... and Hoffman... well he is just playing Hoffman. Baumbach the writer/director of Marriage Story is very talented and I expect more great things from him in the future. I think Adam Driver is a terrific actor and IMO could be the heir apparent to the likes of Spencer Tracy who I greatly admire...Marriage Story really IS a great movie from the dialogue, performances, and Randy Newman's score for anyone that has NOT seen it, do so... you won't regret it!
and the acting was superb, the story good, the writing excellent.Dern was brilliant (and I don't particularly even care for her): it ain't the quantity but the quality.
Don't remember which film it was but someone won best supporting for (IIRC) a sub three minute performance.
Keep 'em wanting more.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure
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since they are two quite different types of movies in pretty much every aspect and I found both of them extremely well done.
I liked Parasite more in terms of surprising and entertaining me all the way through, but that's just my opinion. I thought Marriage Story was pretty great, and everyone, especially the 3 lawyers, brilliantly inhabited their characters. And I've liked Adam Driver for a while, especially since Patterson, where he plays a bus driver/poet in New Jersey, a long way from Star Wars.
in our opinions and discussions, only mentioned because we live in
a culture of "awards" and "best" and other stupid competitions perpetuated
by the media and encouraged by the people that create such wonderful
art and entertainment.
I wasn't helping the situation!
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
Beatrice Straight won for a 5 minute role in Network. It should be at least 10 minutes for Supporting, I feel.
Bill
Yes, definitely better than Parasite.
Bill
JUST KIDDING.
I plan to knock off this film since I'm sheltered in place. 'Parasite' was a GOOD SK film BUT so many are. I thought of it as nice but "not special".
I completely baffled that Driver is making it BIG. He was funny when he started but his lack of "face" seemed to limit him. I was wrong. He is good and now a millennial staple.
I'm with you - Parasite was very good and I like Bong Joon-ho's work, but mostly it was in the right place at the right time, award wise.
ONE best film award should have covered it and then some.
Driver is really, really good and (I think) will just continue to get better.
He's no one trick pony!
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
I felt Driver's character could have been even better sporting a mustache and a small beard.
Bill
I thought it was possibly the best movie I saw last year. Having said that though, I thought Adam Driver's performance ecliped Scarlett J.. I'm not sure what the criteria for Best Supporting Actress is as far as screen time goes (IF there is one at all) but Ms. Dern was really good I thought... Interesting to note that the writer / director Noah Baumbach is married to Greta Gerwig the new "it" girl director... One talented family to be sure....
Saw it. Thought it was generally good.
But, in several scenes I think the actors were trying to perform outside their capabilities (i.e. overacting).
It was indeed.
-Wendell
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