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In Reply to: RE: Well, Stalin did defeat Hitler. Unlike him, Joe's designs on "world conquest" posted by Tom Brennan on June 24, 2007 at 12:26:48
And according to Eisenhower it was agreed that Allied forces would stand down at several points and allow Stalin to advance, which is how the Red Army was able to capture so much territory. Germany might never have been split!
clark
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Dividing Germany was the best thing that could have been done and should have been done after the Great War, and was considered then.
So tell me Clark, how many American lives would capturing Berlin and Prague been worth? 500,000? A million? Give me a number.
I love the way the Yanks turned up late and then assumed it was their war...
really, please remember that there were a couple of other countries fighting that war.
"I love the way the Yanks turned up late and then assumed it was their war...
really, please remember that there were a couple of other countries fighting that war."
I know that very well Dave.
And with that I'm done with this off-topic history business.
...is difficult for some, I realize.)
It began with a movie. Then it moved to a partially-false allegation, which I countered. Then along came Tom Brennan.
The fact remains, Eastern Europe was carved up by an agreement at Yalta among the Big Three Allies. It had nothing to do with the heroism of the Red Army. Not only that, Germany's Western front at that time was less well-defended; nor would the battle have been down to the Americans.
As for the gruesome math you wish me to do, let's toss in the thirty or forty million East Germans and Ukrainians that Stalin murdered and see how the equation balances.
clark
"As for the gruesome math you wish me to do, let's toss in the thirty or forty million East Germans and Ukrainians that Stalin murdered and see how the equation balances."
These numbers that Stalin supposedly killed just get bigger and bigger. Give me a reliable source for forty million Germans and Ukrainians killed after the end of the war.
You failed to answer my question, how many American lives would it have worth to capture eastern Germany. Personally, to paraphrase Bismarck, I don't think the whole of Germany would be worth the life of one American grenadier.
Beethoven.
Want another: Goethe.
A third: Schiller.
... the German atomic and rocket scientists?
The German rocket guys were very good but we already had the best atomic guys. The Germans were nowhere near developing the bomb.
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