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Bergman�s Saraband, or another boring, intellectual film whoes seemingly never will end...

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patrickU

How, but how can anybody think, feel that way?
Is it possible?

Each tableau, a suit of a dance for couples, is a feast.
It is also the purest form of incest brought up in a film, well at least I never saw one analysing this better!
Even if it is only a part of it, even a BIG part here, it is morally very courageous to bring this theme this way up.
A very stative film, and no doubt, more theatre than movie.
The actors, well beyond any critic, so let skip that.
Bergman struggle for faith, for � Grace � is omnipresent.

We lost one of the best.

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RE: Bergman�s Saraband, or another boring, intellectual film whoes seemingly never will end... - rico 10:22:23 09/19/07 (8)
I thought that this was one of his best efforts.
- RE: Bergman�s Saraband, or another boring, intellectual film whoes seemingly never will end... - patrickU 11:22:52 09/19/07 (7)
  A wonderful film oscillating between bitterness, frankness, the beauty of God and the impossibility to believe, the some time very astonishing hateful moments and I felt like a voyeuristic stranger, the erotic scenes between father & daughter, the woman as the more intelligent part of a couple, the perfect digital portrait fiiting Bergman way of seeing perfectly...
  Well....
  
  Have you seen " Faithless "?-
  - RE: Bergman�s Saraband, or another boring, intellectual film whoes seemingly never will end... - Victor Khomenko 13:24:15 09/19/07 (6)
    ***Have you seen " Faithless "?-
    
    Yes... :) what a wonderful student to a great teacher...
    - RE: ..... - patrickU 00:31:29 09/20/07 (2)
      No wonder...You recommend it...In fact I learnt also later it was very autobiographical of Mr. Bergman himself.
      - RE: ..... - Victor Khomenko 06:20:09 09/20/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: ..... posted by patrickU on September 20, 2007 at 00:31:29
        
        The whole series was autobiographical, starting with films about his parents.
        
        RE: ..... - patrickU 06:36:29 09/20/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: ..... posted by Victor Khomenko on September 20, 2007 at 06:20:09
        
        Yes, more or less.
        Saraband was maybe more.
        Read that fucking book!
        Light will go on as far for his work.
    - RE: Bergman�s Saraband, or another boring, intellectual film whoes seemingly never will end... - Rod H. 23:04:37 09/19/07 (2)
      Just saw Saraband for the first time recently, then shortly afterwards rewatched Faithless.
      
      Wonderful "boring intellectual" stuff they are. Can't seem to get enough.
      
      Rod
      - RE: Bergman�s Saraband, or another boring, intellectual film whoes seemingly never will end... - Victor Khomenko 06:19:14 09/20/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Bergman�s Saraband, or another boring, intellectual film whoes seemingly never will end... posted by Rod H. on September 19, 2007 at 23:04:37
        
        I suspect movies like this are not for everyone, that is given, after all that is why there is always the Sopranos.
        
        But if you like that sort of insightful movies, you will be hard pressed to find better ones.
      - RE: Bergman�s Saraband, or another boring, intellectual film whoes seemingly never will end... - patrickU 00:34:01 09/20/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Bergman�s Saraband, or another boring, intellectual film whoes seemingly never will end... posted by Rod H. on September 19, 2007 at 23:04:37
        
        Yes as passionating as a criminal story...with substance.
Only a Frenchman could include "pure" and "incest" in the same sentence. nt - tinear 09:17:09 09/18/07 (5)
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- RE: Pure Love? - patrickU 09:46:46 09/18/07 (4)
  Here we go...
  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE06lqT0Y2g (Open in New Window)
  - RE: Pure Love? - Victor Khomenko 13:26:23 09/19/07 (3)
    How is she doing after her ordeal? (I don't mean with papa)
    - RE: Few weeks ago, she almost died... - patrickU 00:42:39 09/20/07 (2)
      She had a surfing acidend last Summer and was seemingly ok, then when coming back from the Film Festival of Venise landing in Paris her head seems to explode/implode so clinic, were they found blood, a lot of, were it should have not been...
      Surgery...and for luck 100% rehabilitated!
      Now her international career can go on.
      
      Incest Lemon and Saraband has a lot in common...Poor Tin like a good boy has again the little taboo when he is hearing that word...
      - RE: Few weeks ago, she almost died... - Victor Khomenko 06:22:04 09/20/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Few weeks ago, she almost died... posted by patrickU on September 20, 2007 at 00:42:39
        
        Such episodes are very dangerous, I think they unearth the serious problems underneath, but I am sure she is in good hands.
        
        Tin... I think he is simply pulling your leg.
        
        RE: How can one pull the leg from soemone who lost the two of them? - patrickU 06:35:04 09/20/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Few weeks ago, she almost died... posted by Victor Khomenko on September 20, 2007 at 06:22:04
        
        it was when hurt her head, full speed against the sea. She got an hemathome.
        Tin? I don�t think he does the way I think he gave this answer...
        Ok it was half fun, I took the un-half part...

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