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In Reply to: RE: Michael Moore came under false premise, to interview him, a real shame-- posted by patrickU on April 06, 2008 at 05:33:22
...that interview was a cheap shot.
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But with humanity and respect of the a person.
Yes a real cheap shot.
... Heston only got that position with the NRA because he was mistaken for Charles Heston, a plumber from Bullnose Illinois?
Otherwise I think it was politics.
I don't know how (or even if) you can keep a straight face using the phrase "respect for humanity' about someone who thought it was fun to kill animals.
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Heston was an advocate of gun ownership. That was, of course, before he developed his illness. Moore knew that Heston was not mentally well, yet still, best case, misled Heston, then proceeded to take advantage of him. Heston was not making speeches, as far as I know, after he was stricken. There were certainly more able people whom Moore could have approached. Why he chose Heston in Heston's state, only Moore knows.
Perhaps your political views tell you that anything and everything goes.
bleep
Was he a card carrying member of the N.R.A. Probably. I suspect that being a member simply requires sending in a check. On the other hand, if by 'representing' you mean advocating in public on behalf of the N.R.A., then no. When he developed alzheimers, his public appearances ended. This is why Moore went to Heston's home, rather than confront him in public.
Only knowing Moore from his films, I think it safe to write that he prefers public confrontations - they create more news. Plus, it allows Moore to draw conclusions for his audience when the subject says "no comment."
Moore turning up at Heston's home should have been the first red flag. Moore tends to "show up" because his targets have little time prepare. He shows up to challenge a man in the early stages of alzheimers. Moore, his films, and his politics are certainly debatable. I would have thought, however, that not debatable is showing up at a man's house who is in the early stages of a non-curable mentally degenerative disease and challenging him to defend his position. Apparently, I was incorrect.
I like Moore - like his movies - agree with much of his politics - and I loathe Heston and everything he stands for.
Yet that scene in that movie left a bad taste in my mouth and made me feel sorry for Heston. I understand Moore trying to make a point about that the NRA was going into a town to promote guns where several kids had recently been shot and the parents of those kids wanted the NRA NOT to come because it would be in incredibly bad taste and very hurtful to the devastated parents of those kids. Heston and the NRA has ZERO sympathy and blathered on about freedom of speech.
The problem is that Moore is sinking to the same kind of level and it comes across as a very small thing to do. But Moore is a bit of an angry junkyard dog and he gets his jaws into something and doesn't let go.
His brand of mockumentary works for the most part but that scene IMO is the worst thing he's done in anything I've seen from him. And unfortunately people remember this part of gun control/NRA thing more than the NRA going against parents' wishes shortly after their kids were killed by fire arms. Moore makes us feel bad for Heston when he should have made people feel bad for the parents and just angry at Heston. BAD BAD BAD scene.
Yes.
Being proponent of hunting big game in Africa, I say fuck him!
You can better you and me knows that.
Mr. Heston was clearly taken advantage of there and any chance of a meaningful discussion about the NRA and gun control policies was lost.
Baba-Booey to you all!
He was clearly abused.
Not the best choice of word there. I typically disagree with the NRA and the far right, although I do support the right to own a firearm. Anyway Moore was way out of line in that instance and it was very disresectful of him.
Baba-Booey to you all!
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