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May he Rest in Peace.
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Unfortunetly one of the main things I remember about him is Michael Moore interviewing him about guns and Charlton was almost running to get away. A sad image. I may not have agreed about some of his stances on gun control but do not want to remember him that way. I much prefer to think of him as Moses...
Some of the things Moses did according to the bible were pretty atrocious. slaughtering hundreds of people. Yeah the Bible is about the ugliest fiction ever created without a single redeeming character.
What a disgusting person.
his comment when receiving an award in 2003: "Charlton Heston announced again today that he is suffering from Alzheimer's."
when asked about that joke, he said: "I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the National Rifle Association. He deserves whatever anyone says about him."
and so the world turns.
... to publish your political dislike of Moore.
Heston used his public standing to gain (supposedly) good PR for the NRA and as such was an acceptable target for an interview.
If Heston was unable to handle the situation, then that was his problem.
He never had a problem when the publicity situation went with him.
to you you should probably get yourself checked out for it as well. That is the problem people have with Moore. He was attacking an old man in the early stages of Alzheimer's and as the son of a man who died from that disease i will tell you, if i that had been my Father and I came in on that scene you'd be talking about Mr. Moore in the past tense.
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On an unrelated note,I wonder if as a Lawyer you could tell me weather one can be cited for speeding after the fact from civilian video taken of a driver while following at equal thus also illegal speed. Say someone took a video of you exceeding the speed limit on an Interstate . The only way to place a measurement on the subject car would of course be to show the speed of the car from which the video was taken which would of course have to also be in excess of the speed limit. Is such a video ever accepted and used as evidence to cite a driver successfully for speeding? Thanks.
but this was done in bad taste. It was too much. The idea is to make your point but not brutalize another human. It made MM look like the jerk. And now that CH is dead it seems he was picking on a guy who was past his prime and not able to defend himself.
OTOH I was perfectly content when he referred to George W as a fictisious president at the Oscar ceremonies. I strongly agree.
C'mon on in!!!
Well that's a relief then. I thought it might have been something serious!
yes.
I dislike MM and never made a secret of it, did I not...
And no it was not his problem, an unfair act is an unfair act.
... apart from your political views.
Because it is you the " me " you want me to be.
this is a language thing, I know both of you, you have very similar views, this is just misunderstanding.
...that interview was a cheap shot.
But with humanity and respect of the a person.
Yes a real cheap shot.
... Heston only got that position with the NRA because he was mistaken for Charles Heston, a plumber from Bullnose Illinois?
Otherwise I think it was politics.
I don't know how (or even if) you can keep a straight face using the phrase "respect for humanity' about someone who thought it was fun to kill animals.
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Heston was an advocate of gun ownership. That was, of course, before he developed his illness. Moore knew that Heston was not mentally well, yet still, best case, misled Heston, then proceeded to take advantage of him. Heston was not making speeches, as far as I know, after he was stricken. There were certainly more able people whom Moore could have approached. Why he chose Heston in Heston's state, only Moore knows.
Perhaps your political views tell you that anything and everything goes.
bleep
Was he a card carrying member of the N.R.A. Probably. I suspect that being a member simply requires sending in a check. On the other hand, if by 'representing' you mean advocating in public on behalf of the N.R.A., then no. When he developed alzheimers, his public appearances ended. This is why Moore went to Heston's home, rather than confront him in public.
Only knowing Moore from his films, I think it safe to write that he prefers public confrontations - they create more news. Plus, it allows Moore to draw conclusions for his audience when the subject says "no comment."
Moore turning up at Heston's home should have been the first red flag. Moore tends to "show up" because his targets have little time prepare. He shows up to challenge a man in the early stages of alzheimers. Moore, his films, and his politics are certainly debatable. I would have thought, however, that not debatable is showing up at a man's house who is in the early stages of a non-curable mentally degenerative disease and challenging him to defend his position. Apparently, I was incorrect.
I like Moore - like his movies - agree with much of his politics - and I loathe Heston and everything he stands for.
Yet that scene in that movie left a bad taste in my mouth and made me feel sorry for Heston. I understand Moore trying to make a point about that the NRA was going into a town to promote guns where several kids had recently been shot and the parents of those kids wanted the NRA NOT to come because it would be in incredibly bad taste and very hurtful to the devastated parents of those kids. Heston and the NRA has ZERO sympathy and blathered on about freedom of speech.
The problem is that Moore is sinking to the same kind of level and it comes across as a very small thing to do. But Moore is a bit of an angry junkyard dog and he gets his jaws into something and doesn't let go.
His brand of mockumentary works for the most part but that scene IMO is the worst thing he's done in anything I've seen from him. And unfortunately people remember this part of gun control/NRA thing more than the NRA going against parents' wishes shortly after their kids were killed by fire arms. Moore makes us feel bad for Heston when he should have made people feel bad for the parents and just angry at Heston. BAD BAD BAD scene.
Yes.
Being proponent of hunting big game in Africa, I say fuck him!
You can better you and me knows that.
Mr. Heston was clearly taken advantage of there and any chance of a meaningful discussion about the NRA and gun control policies was lost.
Baba-Booey to you all!
He was clearly abused.
Not the best choice of word there. I typically disagree with the NRA and the far right, although I do support the right to own a firearm. Anyway Moore was way out of line in that instance and it was very disresectful of him.
Baba-Booey to you all!
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A great actor with massive presence, but I had a little chuckle reading your post as an image of Moses with an AK47 came into my head.
I'm sure it would have been of more use than a wooden staff on a couple of occasions. :0)
Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
that little Bush set-top box internet access thingy or is it still just an account created with that beautifully simple, well intentioned device that's accessed by more modern, less romantic means?
I should listen to myself rambling about internet nostalgia !
As for CH, given the amount of school shootings currently going down in the US I found his views strangely at odds with common sense. Omega Man has a lot to answer for!
"...that little Bush set-top box internet access thingy or is it still just an account created with that beautifully simple, well intentioned device that's accessed by more modern, less romantic means?"
That bloody Bush Box cost added a small fortune onto my phone bill and navigating pages was a hit and miss affair with no cursor, but looking back it was fun.
I believe the Bushinternet email address may still be up and running, and I may just pay it a visit for the first time in many years to see if it's clogged up with penis enlargement ads and offers of marriage from nubile young Russian ladies. :0)
Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
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