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Jack G

In Reply to: RE: Disc capacity matters--take Harry Potter Order of the Phoenix posted by Jazz Inmate on September 04, 2007 at 11:49:23

kind of like what Disney did for the Pirates movies.
Jack

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Difference is I have to get off my doofus to change discs in the middle of the movie for HD DVD. nt - oscar 12:57:46 09/04/07 (7)
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- Jack's saying just the extras are on disc two. I don't read German so I can't verify that NT - Jazz Inmate 13:13:10 09/04/07 (6)
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  - The text on the website you provided isn't specifc - racerguy 12:18:25 09/05/07 (3)
    It says the HD DVD set will be a two-disc set. It also says the bonus material will be identical to the DVD version. The implication is that the movie will be on Disc One and the bonus material will be on Disc Two, but it is not stated that way.
    - You're probably right. It would certainly be a major SNAFU to have the actual film split over two discs - Jazz Inmate 17:21:14 09/05/07 (2)
      But I think the fact that a two-disc set required for HD DVD provides the same content as a one disc on Blu-ray makes the point regardless.
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      - I'm not so sure I'd categorize a split film as a "major SNAFU" - racerguy 21:23:44 09/05/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: You're probably right. It would certainly be a major SNAFU to have the actual film split over two discs posted by Jazz Inmate on September 05, 2007 at 17:21:14
        
        Lots of them out there on DVD (such as the LOTR Extended Edition sets), and I've never heard anyone complain. I think it would be better not to split a film if it's not necessary, but having a film split across two discs doesn't bother me. Once upon a time, all but the shortest films had intermissions.
        
        The film is 138 minutes - Jack G 05:07:29 09/06/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I'm not so sure I'd categorize a split film as a "major SNAFU" posted by racerguy on September 05, 2007 at 21:23:44
        
        Considering they got King Kong on 1 disc, and that's over 3 hrs, this will fit easily.
        Jack
  - DOH ! When in doubt, read the header... - oscar 14:20:14 09/04/07 (0)
    I had the exact opposite conversation with a Blu-ray basher concerning POTC on another forum.
  - The movie isn't *that* long. - Jack G 13:38:28 09/04/07 (0)
    It'll fit on one discs-put the extras on the second. Its not a big deal, usually bing called the Special edition. :-)
    The IFA reports came out last week, hence my posts on the new BD players.
    Jack
RE: 2 disc edition =1 for movie, 1 for extras. - Jazz Inmate 12:34:51 09/04/07 (12)
So what does that do to your manufacturing expenses, that seemed so meaningful earlier today?

What about PCM? Not important?
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- They still are.. - Jack G 13:40:06 09/04/07 (8)
  As Paramount pointed out, its very important to the studios.
  jack
  
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  - RE: They still are.. - Jazz Inmate 16:34:23 09/04/07 (7)
    Turning away 67% of the HD movie market and favoring discs that can't hold as much as Blu-ray might indeed save a little bit in manufacturing costs.
    
    It's also right up there with the dumbest business moves in the saga of HD.
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    - You need to keep things in perspective - Jack G 05:08:08 09/05/07 (6)
      Paramount made roughly $1.5 Billion last year. The best selling HD discs (300) have only sold a couple hundred thousand copies. Only a few broke 100,000. Some sell in the tens of thousands, but many don't even sell 1,000 discs.
      Remember:
      DVD=99%
      BD=0.6%
      HD DVD=0.4%
      From the beginning to the end of July, there have only been 3.7 Million discs sold by both formats combined (2.2M BD, 1.5M HD DVD).
      We aren't talking big bucks here. Paramount may have given up the equivalent of pocket change now, for bigger gains down the road (cheaper replication costs, better infrastructure etc.). Time will tell if they were right.
      Jack
      
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      - I was just replying to your series of posts about how it's more expensive to manufacture blu-rays - Jazz Inmate 09:44:00 09/05/07 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: You need to keep things in perspective posted by Jack G on September 05, 2007 at 05:08:08
        
        I wholeheartedly agree about perspective. So if you know that, why is this tiny manufacturing issue a blip on your radar?
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        RE: I was just replying to your series of posts about how it's more expensive to manufacture blu-rays - Jack G 10:21:27 09/05/07 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I was just replying to your series of posts about how it's more expensive to manufacture blu-rays posted by Jazz Inmate on September 05, 2007 at 09:44:00
        
        > > > So if you know that, why is this tiny manufacturing issue a blip on your radar? < < <
        Good question. My answer is, that I'm not convinced they can solve the problems satisfactorily. The BDA has been working on this for quite a few years now, and *still* the issues remain. If they don't fix the problems soon, its going to hit the fan when the subsidies run out.
        Jack
        
        I guess the worry is they've run up against a manufacturing snag technology cannot solve. - oscar 10:50:15 09/05/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I was just replying to your series of posts about how it's more expensive to manufacture blu-rays posted by Jack G on September 05, 2007 at 10:21:27
        
        That wouldn't be very good news at all for Blu-ray (unless they go back to 25G disks).
        
        or that its not really viable (nt) - Jack G 13:26:42 09/05/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I guess the worry is they've run up against a manufacturing snag technology cannot solve. posted by oscar on September 05, 2007 at 10:50:15
        
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      - That 1% is potentially a very juicy plum ;-) - 4season 09:13:35 09/05/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: You need to keep things in perspective posted by Jack G on September 05, 2007 at 05:08:08
        
        I imagine that if the movie studios can bring down costs to produce a Blu-Ray or HD DVD movie sufficiently low, they could be looking at very very nice margins because these movies typically command much higher prices, whereas standard DVD sales are in a slump, and prices are discounted. It's like Apple and iPhone: There, the company's goal is to capture 1% of the USA mobile phone market, and that might not seem like a lot, until you realize it's the choicest part of the market where there's serious money to be made.
        
        It has much bigger growth potential, that's for sure - Jazz Inmate 09:45:42 09/05/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: That 1% is potentially a very juicy plum ;-) posted by 4season on September 05, 2007 at 09:13:35
        
        And that's what shareholders like to see--growth. DVD is a cash cow, but it is a mature market.
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- Manufacturing expenses/yields are important... So is PCM .... nt - oscar 12:56:48 09/04/07 (2)
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  - RE: Manufacturing expenses/yields are important... So is PCM .... nt - GoingCoastal 20:23:01 09/05/07 (1)
    PCM only matters to us audio nuts. Neither SACD nor DVD-A succeeded but the MP3 is making a good inroad on the CD. The consumers that are going to decide if one/both of these formats succeeds has a $300 HTiB that is set-up wrong and not calibrated.
    
    King Kong is 181 minutes and is on one HD DVD disc. Batman Begins is only 3 minutes shorter than POtC and it fit on one disc. I thought the BD mantra was extras and interactivity don't matter only the movie?
    - Just 'cuz J6p doesn't care doesn't mean I shouldn't lobby for it. - oscar 09:00:49 09/06/07 (0)
      P*ssing in the wind but at least I can try.

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