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RE: Playstation 3 is the de facto Blu-Ray standard-bearer

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In Reply to: RE: Playstation 3 is the de facto Blu-Ray standard-bearer posted by 4season on October 18, 2007 at 06:16:44

As I have said before, if Blu-Ray is little more than the PS3 format, it is guaranteed to be a niche product. Things have to work well on the stand alone players too. There also needs to be alot more stand alone players out there. This reliance on the PS3 is OK for the short term, but isn't healthy in the long run.
As for video 1.1, the BDA seems to be putting that off for as long as possible. What upcoming players are going to be 1.1 compliant? The 2 new Denons, one going for $2K, one slightly less. The 2 combo players by LG and Samsung. What else? Maybe the new Panny coming out? The two new Sonys are coming out Oct. 31. That's not an accident. They won't be compliant. I'm not sure any 1.1 discs are coming out until next year. I'm guessing that the BDA is putting off video 1.1 until next year either because they can't do it yet, after all it was postponed once already, or they don't want the messiness until after the holidays. At some point, customers with 1.0 players bought this holiday time are going to be in for a rude awakening.
Jack

Edits: 10/18/07

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Mass market acceptance is not going to happen this Holiday season. - oscar 10:23:35 10/18/07 (2)
And may never happen if disc prices continue to hover around $30 (this week not withstanding). Current Blu-ray players will continue to play Blu-ray disks (with the exception of the occasional fixable firmware glitch) and that's all you need to play the movie. At the moment Blu-ray is a niche and so is HD DVD; I don't expect that to change anytime soon.
Maybe after Blu-ray has gotten it's act together:
put reasonably priced 1.1/2.0 profile players on the market (I don't even know/care what the profiles mean), drop Blu-ray movie prices close to DVD prices, and make HD DVD disappear is there a chance of mass market acceptance. This won't happen anytime soon, maybe in the for the next holiday season.

Edits: 10/18/07
- Irrelevant - Jack G 10:46:43 10/18/07 (1)
  That still does not negate anything I said, which is that BD doesn't have its act together. You kindly confirm that. I'm actually beginning to wonder if they will ever have their act together.
  Jack
  - That is like getting upset at studios for releasing movies of different aspect ratios - Jazz Inmate 23:49:57 10/18/07 (0)
    Like it or not, studios will have the say over how their product is released and what features it includes. At least blu-ray provides a 50-gig framework in which to operate, which is significantly more than can be said of HD DVD.
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If worst comes to worst, B-D effectively remains at Profile 1.0 status indefinitely (but buyers may not care) - 4season 09:28:21 10/18/07 (2)
And frankly, I doubt that many potential buyers would know or care whether their movie is Java-enabled. Next-gen features like picture-in-picture may remain rare in B-D land, but again, no great loss to an audience who have just come from the DVD world.

But for now, when given a choice between B-D and HD DVD releases of the same movie, unless the B-D version offers something like a higher-quality soundtrack, I'll generally opt for the HD DVD, because it's likelier to have richer bonus content.
- That wouldn't look good - Jack G 10:00:35 10/18/07 (1)
  They'll have to rewrite the rules about players coming out after Oct. 31. That's a PR nightmare. Do you think the BDA would admit that they cannot do what HD DVD has done since inception?
  Disney wants the features, and has already claimed Snow White will come out late in '08 as 1.1. Its going to be *ahem* interesting when people pop it into their 1.0 machines expecting lots of interactive goodies for the kids.
  Interesting times ahead. :-)
  I've stopped buying BDs for the time being.
  Jack
  - You know what doesn't look good? - Jazz Inmate 22:42:22 10/18/07 (0)
    Releasing the Jack Ryan HD DVDs without material advertised on the box and promoted in previous announcements...now that doesn't look good.
    You mention a hypothetical PR nightmare. Well, this is a real one. And yet the problem with this HD DVD box doesn't bother you at all. Interesting.
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    - http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=21578 (Open in New Window)
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