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In Reply to: RE: No, its basically over posted by Jack G on January 04, 2008 at 13:33:11
"Buy two, get one!" I.e., we used to get two hi-def discs for what one will cost.
Seriously, I have no hi-def player, no hi-def display, but I just picked up 4 hi-def discs (Troy, The Departed, 300, The Wild Bunch) on Amazon's latest BOGO sale. On the sale, two discs averaged out to 12.00 per disc, and then I ordered two more, averaging out to 10.00.
That's total cost. No tax, and no shipping (since order "theoretically" or actually exceeded $25.00). I just couldn't pass these up at this price.
I don't care to mention what format I bought, because I'm no fan-boy, but it's not hard to figure it out. I'm just hedgin' my bets.
Along with you, Jack, I fear that Sony's monopoly on hi-def, should it play out that way, could be costlier to consumers. The manufacturing cost of blu-ray is considerably higher than HD DVD, so there aren't any savings to pass on to consumers on the software side.
So it's a catch 22 . . . glad there may be movement toward one format, saddened this format war won't drag out longer, because I do think there was some advantage (e.g., BOGOS, rapidly declining hi-def player cost, etc.) for us consumers.
I'm not singing the blues for HD DVD, but HD DVD does have a tougher road to sled.
Follow Ups:
I ordered six (6) more Blu-rays at $14.00 apiece to add to the stockpile of Blu-ray movies sitting on shelf waiting to be unwrapped. I may dive it again with the cheaper catalog $10.00 movies in a couple of days. I agree the BOGOs will probably disappear (or at least frequency reduced) when it becomes clear HD DVD is fading away.
You are clever.
This has been my concern as well. Also, it wouldn't surprise me if SONY slows down it's progress if the competition dries up. If there's only one format I don't expect prices will come down much on hardware or Blu-ray discs in the near future as SONY tries to recoup losses from the HD-DVD 'surge' late last year.
We live in interesting times!
AuPh
Sony which is also a movie studio owns most of the BD replicators, especially the ones that make BD-50s, that all studios have to use. This means that they basically have control over their competitors output. That can't be good.
Jack
just like it did with that other "monopoly" format, DVD. With HD DVD on the doldrums, there might be a slight price rise with profile 1.1 players while the 1.0 profile players will be "closed out" fairly quickly (and maybe a great deal for Blu-ray challenged owners of HDTVs....).
I'll be surprised if you can't buy a profile 1.1 Blu-ray player for less than $300 within 6 months. But we should wait for CES to see what new toys are coming out.
Along with Sony's superior support of SACD? I'll pass on Sony branded products and one day buy a BR player if and when one of the higher end companies offers one. Think Meridian and the like.
Consumer branded electronics that you can buy at Best Buy or Circuit City don't hold my interest.
At least perhaps we're at a point where a final decision will be made for one format.
to High End companies participating in the next gen optical format. They tend to be smaller companies with less capital for investment, hence risk plays a major part in the direction they take. If they clearly see one side of the fork in the road disolving, they are more likely to put the effort into poducing a product.
The HIgh end companies are sitting on the sidelines waiting for convincing evidence that at least one of the formats will survive before they think about investing resources in developing a player. Warner's defection to Blu-ray is highly suggestive that Blu-ray will survive for the long-term and may trigger high end company investment in the format. I was talking to a dealer about this and he indicated he has been asked to help lobby a high end company manufacturer (at CES) to begin work on a Blu-ray player.
as we said pretty much the same thing. Oh, well.
they've got two very nice blu-ray players on the horizon, at approximately MRSP 2,000 and 1,000 respectively.
IIRC, Marantz may have one coming out, and Onkyo too! I recognize these might not be "high" enough for you! Understandable . . . Meridian makes great gear.
- http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/denon-intros-two-new-high-end-blu-ray-players/ (Open in New Window)
The Denon DVD 5910CI (DVD-A1XV) is as good as DVD gets and if they make a BluRay player with the same upscaled DVD replay as the DVD-A1XV then even I would be interested, but it would be interesting to see how much difference there is between upscaled DVD and BluRay through the same Denon on a 42" 0r 50" display.
Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
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