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In Reply to: RE: Got my 5010 and Integra preamp set up, finally posted by Jazz Inmate on January 17, 2008 at 10:37:17
I am seeing definition that is really stunning. I don't know if I've properly tweaked the settings or my new components/cables have broken in sufficiently, but I love the picture I am getting. Absolutely incredible!
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
Follow Ups:
You are now finally seeing it.
Enjoy,
Jack
Most people in the HD world are using a display maxing out at 720p or 1080i with component cables or DVI. Very few have a setup using 1080p and HDMI, and even fewer have a top-rated display.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
I don't really consider 720 HD, more like Mid-def. It has half the pixels of 1080. As you have seen, the difference is quite noticeable. Remember, you'll have to sit fairly close to get the advantages of 1080. see link.
Jack
The most dramatic improvement is the black level. I always enjoyed watching with the light on before. Now I'm turning it off and just stunned by the detail I'm seeing in darker areas of the picture. My old pioneer looked more detailed than many 1080i sets like my buddy's fujitsu.
I sit about 8' away from the screen.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
...the picture from the 5010 is truly stunning. I just finished watching '3:10 to Yuma' on BD, and the detail and depth of the images were just extraordinary, not to mention the incredibly deep blacks (Kuro in action!). D-Nice's latest settings seem to be a winner!
BTW, are you planning to have your display ISF-calibrated? I'm really happy with how it looks already, and I can hardly imagine how it could look better, but I'm finding myself being swayed by all the success stories on AVS.
Russell
My compadres at blu-ray.com are not big on D-nice's settings and do recommend ISF calibration. So I may get that addressed sooner or later. For now, I am thrilled with the picture I'm getting. The black level is a major improvement and so is the definition. Now I need to see Ratatoille, which arrived a couple weeks ago after I sold my old plasma. Is 3:10 to Yuma worthwhile, beyond the excellent picture?
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
I really enjoyed '3:10 to Yuma'. Really terrific, internalized performances from Crowe and Bale, and the story is compelling. Gorgeous scenic shots as well. As you might know, it's a remake of an old Glenn Ford film of the same name; some reviews I've read said that the new one is even better.
I'm also really happy with the picture from my 5010; if you do end up changing D-Nice's settings yourself, let me know!
Russell
I've set the 5010 at 44, -1, +5 for contrast, brightness and color, respectively. The other settings I kept as D-Nice had them.
Do you hear a hum when your 5010 is on? I don't notice it with any audio on, but with sound off, I do hear the plasma emit a hum.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
Wow--seems like your contrast and color settings are a little high. Did you try D-Nice's settings there? Did they seem too bland to you? As for the hum (buzz, really)--it's there, but very faint and only really audible when the sound's very low or off. Strangely enough, the buzz is more prominent from my seating position than up close. A LOT has been written about the Kuro buzzing on AVS--it's evidently louder for some than others.
As for the speaker, I just attached it. I've got the display on a TV stand, and the speaker fills out the unit nicely--it looks kind of ugly without it! It's quite adequate for 'normal' TV broadcasts. I've got my BD player hooked to my (2-channel) audio system, of course.
Russell
D-Nice recommends:
Contrast: 45
Brightness: -2
Color: +10
I'm at 43, -1, +3...so while I'm at very similar brightness and contrast, I backed off the color a bit. I did this after calibrating using the tool on Ratatouille, which is pretty handy.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
His 'reference' settings are:
Contrast: 29
Brightness: 0
Color: -13
Tint: Red 2
Sharpness: -11
Those other settings are meant to be used with the break-in DVD only. (Something I haven't used.)
Russell
The reference settings are in USER mode, BTW.
PRO ADJUST:
Pure Cinema:
Film Mode: Standard (I use this for cable; I have it set to 'Advance' for Blu-ray)
Text Optimization: Off
Picture Detail:
DRE Picture: Low
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Enhancer Mode: 2
Gamma: 3
Color Detail:
Color Temp: Low
CTI: Off
Noise Reduction:
3DNR: Off
Field NR: Off
Power Save Mode: Off
Orbiter: Mode 2
I know D-Nice isn't the be-all, end-all with respect to these things, but I figure that he's got more experience than I have, and that these settings are a good starting point. As I've mentioned before, I think the picture looks pretty damn good with these settings!
Enjoy,
Russell
It is a more natural picture to drop off the sharpness and color. Thanks for alerting me about that.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
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