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In Reply to: RE: Jitter via HDMI posted by John C. - Aussie on June 07, 2008 at 10:13:03
"Yet another reason to hold back investing in blu ray."
No offense, but I don't think I've read a more asinine reason to not invest in Blu-ray.
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No offense, but I have not read a more asinine post for some time which adds little or nothing to either the good will on this board or to the subject of jitter in HDMI. To each his own prejudices and passions.
John
Sadly (or is it happily?) an incurable audio-video nutter with an indecent number of toys. Classical music forever!!!!
asinine: extremely or utterly foolish (ie, an asinine excuse)
That comment from your post was asinine, period. If you honestly believe that jitter on the HDMI output is a valid reason not to invest in Blu-ray, you've lost it.
To make matters worse, you've gone on to say, "...I went to a commercial theater earlier in the week to see the latest "Raiders" movie and came away unimpressed with the video & audio quality - the movie itself was ok. The home experience can now exceed that in the movie theater thanks to digital and HD (the home audio systems have been better for years despite lossy DD/DTS). " in another post.
Since you believe we shouldn't invest in Blu-ray, where the hell are we going to get HD from? Can't get it from DVD. Won't get it from tape. How about the over-compressed downloads that Microsoft wants to feed us? Maybe those 4Mb/s 720p downloads from Apple? Or how about the pixelized mess that's satellite and cable TV? Or maybe from the major networks, all of which inundate us with those hundreds of free movies each month OTA?
Thank you for your friendly response - sort of really makes for a nice tone here.
Down under we do get quite a lot of HD from FTA TV.
And if you care to read my original post I never said jitter was the only reason not to get into Blu Ray - something I might do at the ed of the year.
But please do not get your knickers in such a knot at anyuting negative re blu ray. Unless you consider it perfect that is.
Cheers
John
Sadly (or is it happily?) an incurable audio-video nutter with an indecent number of toys. Classical music forever!!!!
Sadly, it's with your own words. From your post:
"The whole subject of jitter makes the hair stand up defensively with many people with subsequent accusations of snake oil, cannot hear it, imagination, ....
But jitter DOES exist and from what I am reading it is rather too prevalent in HDMI, something which will not worry 95% of users but can be of concern to obsessive nutters like me. A Google search on this subject yields some interesting reading. For some time the whole existence of jitter was denied, even at AES level, but we have moved forward and its importancve is now acknowledged.
So how can it be overcome?
One suggestion I understand could be in the pipeline, is to take the HDMI signal into a buffer package which strips off the audio and removes jitter allowing a nice clean digital out to go to a processor or receiver + a video only to go on to the monitor or wherever.
But maybe HDMI protocols will be further modified. Who knows.
Yet another reason to hold back investing in blu ray."
Where is any other reason besides jitter mentioned? Nowhere. And "Yet another reason to hold back investing in blu ray." doesn't qualify, because you didn't list any of the others.
This is my last comment re: this issue. Do yourself a favor and just ignore my threads and comments: that's what I'll be doing with your "contributions" from this post forward.
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