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First adjustment: Room Light Sensor. I followed the manual's directions and... it now, on the menu, shows, "On."
Item # 3.6.2 Extend You Panel Life
I similarly followed the directions and no "On" illuminates (the "On" lights up when I select it and then I press "enter," exit to the menu and... is seems nothing has happened since the "Off" continues to show on the sub-menu). Menu shows nothing and when I return to the sub-menu, it always shows, "Off."
Is there a malfunction or why doesn't it show, "On?"
Thanks in advance.
Follow Ups:
Tin,
In reading your owners manual, that feature seems as though it enables a whole bunch of things that the setup gurus over at AVSForum suggest be disabled for the best picture. As for why the selection doesn't "stick", I assume that you're selecting "yes" on the confirmation screen and then hitting the "enter" button. The instructions then direct you to press the "home menu" button to exit. By chance, are you hitting the "enter" button a second time rather than the "home menu"? Just a thought. If all else fails, give Pio a call.
extend the life of the panel so.... I'm trying to activate it.
I meticulously followed, several times, the directions, including hitting enter once after I selected yes and then the home menu. It still seems to not work.
The "Room Light Sensor" function is "off" when the unit is shipped and I followed the manual to turn it "on." It now shows "on" from the menu.
I wonder if having that "on" precludes the other function?
I'll try de-activating and see.
Thanks.
Rats.
Got to go to Pioneer rep, next.
They can help.
Jack
that had similar set-up issues with the specific menu item.
Hey, Jack... "non-Elite" hurt my feelings. I mean, $4100 bucks felt pretty friggin' elite to me!
LOL sorry.
As I understand it, the glass is the same, and the difference between elite and non-Elite is the number of adjustments available for the picture.
Jack
Jack,
It goes much deeper than that. The supporting electronics are very different. Standard models have an awesome picture, but the Elites, with the better electronics, do the standards one better. Color saturation and black levels are better. And, yes, they have a few more bells and whistles. I spent a lot of time investigating and looking at the standard 50' Kuro, the 50' Elite 1080p, and the 50' Elite 720p. For me the debate was not about standard vs. Elite, as the Elites had a noticeably superior picture, it was a 1080p vs. 720p. At 4' away, the 1080p did have visibly better resolution than the 720p model. However, at 12' from the screen, the distance in my living room, there was NO visible difference. None! So, the 720p turned out to be a very happy medium in my situation. Elite quality at the price of the standard model.
I'm sitting 8' from my 60" set.
> > > It goes much deeper than that. The supporting electronics are very different. Standard models have an awesome picture, but the Elites, with the better electronics, do the standards one better. Color saturation and black levels are better. < < <
That's the hype, but is it real? You can get an overall better picture from the 151 (Elite), at least in part because of the better controls it has-an ISF calibrator can't do much with the 6020 (non-elite) [hence, they don't care for it]. But, are the electronics really *superior*? There seems to be just as many complaints about buzzing with the Elite models as with non-elite. Call me skeptical.
If I am wrong, feel free to correct me (again), since there is a good chance I'm going to eventually buy one this year.
Jack
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No, you're not wrong. You correctly point out that the settings capabilities with the Elites are indeed part of the reason they can produce a better picture. That is true. I've been searching for a post that I came across several months ago regarding the electronics differences, but have not as yet found it. I can't recall whether it was on the AVS Forum or one of the many professional reviews of the Pio models I read. In short, this post/review stated that the Elites do use different color filtering than the standard models, which results in superior color, and in particular black level performance. When I find that link I'll share it with you.
If you find the post or any data, I am genuinely interested. As I said, I will probably buy a 151 this year
Jack
Jack, no offense taken at all. Hope it didn't seem as though I was trying to pick an arguement either. When I find that link again I will pass it on to you.
Mike
I understand why they're more money. I think they're worth it and would love to own one, even a non-Elite. To a normal person, however, that's a lot of money.
OTOH, how many of us are normal here? :-)
But looking through the adjustment possibilities on this unit, I come away overwhelmed. I would consider it mandatory at this level for a compleat ISF calibration and setup, and hopefully the unit has like 5 presets for different source material.
There's flexibility, then again there's too much flexibility; in that for me, after a 3-month learning curve, it would take *me 20 or 30 minutes of set up time to watch a rented DVD movie.
It's an impressive unit. This is *not* a standard consumer piece, so I'm sure you're prepared for a serious learning curve. For the particular issue at hand, if you can't quickly figure it out, I'd flag it and move on to the next item. Bundle up all the stumpers at the end, and have Pioneer USA give a deserved walk-through on them.
(We all know that with hi-end Japanese consumer electronics, there are a bunch of features and controls that after experimentation, may easily be sidelined to 'OFF'. I have a JVC S-VHS deck that fits the bill of overly-complex and confusing.)
Patience and trial and error will be your best friend here.
And I'd sure like to hear any results down the line of experiments with different power cords.
Best of luck!
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