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In Reply to: RE: Go here: posted by Jack G on August 15, 2008 at 15:31:42
that had similar set-up issues with the specific menu item.
Hey, Jack... "non-Elite" hurt my feelings. I mean, $4100 bucks felt pretty friggin' elite to me!
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LOL sorry.
As I understand it, the glass is the same, and the difference between elite and non-Elite is the number of adjustments available for the picture.
Jack
Jack,
It goes much deeper than that. The supporting electronics are very different. Standard models have an awesome picture, but the Elites, with the better electronics, do the standards one better. Color saturation and black levels are better. And, yes, they have a few more bells and whistles. I spent a lot of time investigating and looking at the standard 50' Kuro, the 50' Elite 1080p, and the 50' Elite 720p. For me the debate was not about standard vs. Elite, as the Elites had a noticeably superior picture, it was a 1080p vs. 720p. At 4' away, the 1080p did have visibly better resolution than the 720p model. However, at 12' from the screen, the distance in my living room, there was NO visible difference. None! So, the 720p turned out to be a very happy medium in my situation. Elite quality at the price of the standard model.
I'm sitting 8' from my 60" set.
> > > It goes much deeper than that. The supporting electronics are very different. Standard models have an awesome picture, but the Elites, with the better electronics, do the standards one better. Color saturation and black levels are better. < < <
That's the hype, but is it real? You can get an overall better picture from the 151 (Elite), at least in part because of the better controls it has-an ISF calibrator can't do much with the 6020 (non-elite) [hence, they don't care for it]. But, are the electronics really *superior*? There seems to be just as many complaints about buzzing with the Elite models as with non-elite. Call me skeptical.
If I am wrong, feel free to correct me (again), since there is a good chance I'm going to eventually buy one this year.
Jack
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No, you're not wrong. You correctly point out that the settings capabilities with the Elites are indeed part of the reason they can produce a better picture. That is true. I've been searching for a post that I came across several months ago regarding the electronics differences, but have not as yet found it. I can't recall whether it was on the AVS Forum or one of the many professional reviews of the Pio models I read. In short, this post/review stated that the Elites do use different color filtering than the standard models, which results in superior color, and in particular black level performance. When I find that link I'll share it with you.
If you find the post or any data, I am genuinely interested. As I said, I will probably buy a 151 this year
Jack
Jack, no offense taken at all. Hope it didn't seem as though I was trying to pick an arguement either. When I find that link again I will pass it on to you.
Mike
I understand why they're more money. I think they're worth it and would love to own one, even a non-Elite. To a normal person, however, that's a lot of money.
OTOH, how many of us are normal here? :-)
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