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I apologize as I rarely use this forum, but others (vintage, vinyl, etc.). I was approached and asked about Klipsch floorstanders and center with Sony AV 7.1 receiver, with some surrounds unnamed. Are these a good match? My friend seemed to have done some research, and knew that Bose is overpriced, even though to his ears, in the Bose store, "they sounded good."
And, how much should this individual spend on his remodel of the family room? I rarely watch movies, so don't know enough. I sent him to read soundandvision.com in the meantime. Are there resources you folks use?
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Depends how serious his movie jones is and how much time his family would spend in it. It's not something that I would invest tons in permanent installation unless I was going to live there awhile. (I'm a realtor.) Having a nice space for movies - a media room in family area or a basement frex - and being wired for video and sound, will pay off. Putting in an elaborate AV room in a modestly priced house may not. Higher end properties offer the best return on HT investments.
I'm not a huge fan of Sony receivers - I'd probably suggest Onkyo or Denon first for a HT. If he wants small lifestyle speakers there are much better than Bose to be had - Omniatstats and others. There are also plenty of affordable alternatives to Klipsch floorstanders. If your friends would ever listen to music in surround mode all the speakers need to be matched reasonably well - same speaker manufacturer is best. But if he goes to avsforum.com he'll find lots of info.
Bose is way overpriced for horribly distorted plastic trash. The only thing worst than Bose for a performance to cost ratio is Bang & Olufsen, they look better than Bose but cost at least 2X and sound, if it is possible, even worse.
One day I was walking through a Bose store and they had a music video playing. I didn't recognize the group's sound so I went up and looked at the screen. It was Fleetwood Mac, one of my favorite bands. The sound was so bad I actually didn't recognize the music which I have heard hundreds of times.
Their tiny speakers with the subs has a huge suckout in the male voice area that mangles the sound. And the subs have to go above 100Hz to try to fill in this hole so their sound is directional, meaning you must place it near the screen or you have a real sonic mess on your hands.
All you have to remember is, Bose Blows.
Skip the Klipsch's also. The horns are wonderfully efficient making them louder and better sounding when placed against another speaker. The problem is listening fatigue. The horn is set back further than the tweeters and woofers so it is delayed. I find they actually give me a headache as my brain is forced to "realign" the time differences in the various tones.
Write in Sarah Palin, a true DC outsider and the only real chance for change
Amen brother!bose blows! I use a Sony HT STR-K670P A/V Receiver, it sounds great after upgrading my speakers. I use Cambridge SoundWorks Sub and Center, Infinity RS1001's fronts and surround. Yes, a mix, but it works for me. Music, SACD or redbook sound great as well. My Sony player DVP-NS90P, was a clearance item at Tweeter last year, it upconverts to 1080i. i am happy.
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I'm not a regular moderator on the Video Asylum, but I've been informed that the political content is leaking out of Outside :)
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no highs no lows, that has to bose
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have posted several times on those old Why Bose threads and still do enjoy my midfi Acura TL Bose system (better than the new Acura ELS trash). The ELS system is Panasonic based also and has a suckout and loud cheap tweets.
Have you folks ever auditioned the Klipsch series for yourself?
Must say something, I agree on S P, bring on more like her. I believe majority here are left leaners. Hope I am wrong.
Auto sound is so bad that even Bose sounds good in them. I had a Bose system in my car a while ago, sounded fine. Actually I have no problem with "auto Bose."
Klipsch? Yes, early in my audiophile journey I bought a pair, they sounded great. But, I found myself getting a headache after listening to them for a couple hours. I did some research and found out why. Some people have this problem, headaches caused by horribly time misaligned tones. I eventually went with Dunlavy Speakers, time aligned. I also had strong physical reactions with these, I actually teared up and/or fell asleep. Truly accurate music does have a powerful effect on one's emotions.
Sorry about the Palin comment, but 99% of my posting is in the "outside asylum" where we discuss things even more volatile than music reproduction, politics and religion.
Write in Sarah Palin, a true DC outsider and the only real chance for change
Thanks Brian - I needed a good laugh today.
I totally agree she's an outsider and unqualified to be the president.
I especially enjoy how the RNC had to spend $ 150,000 to dress up Ms. Barbie Doll. Did she not have clothes of her own? Is she out of money?
Thanks for the laugh - made my day!
Enjoy your music...
-B-
don't have time to go Outside (much).
Thanks for your observations. I was asking about the new Klipsch floorstanding units which my friend referenced. Never heard them. I did hear those Klipschhorns in the remote past.
I hate to see anyone buy Bose, even if they're not audiophiles. They just aren't very good sounding and they're not cheap - very pricey for what they are.
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You ask how much he should spend? Only he can answer that. I would ask how much can he afford and how important is it to him.
The only advise I could lend is to get a reciever with Audyssey room eq like a Denon or Onkyo. This seems to the best bargain for mid-fi and improves quality of sound. If he likes the Bose but thinks it is overpriced then he should look at Mirage omnistats. As for subs get the best he can afford, maybe used.
I was perusing the Klipsch website for packages of speakers and they look pretty snazzy. Haven't heard them, tho.
Agree with your advice. Yesterday, I told him, are you going to Denon or Onkyo? He said Sony.
Kal R suggested AVforum.com and they had a low priced receiver survey, where they basically had several Onkyos and a Pioneer and a Denon and a Yamaha. Agree the those surveyed?
I sent him an email with similar questions about his budget, etc.
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