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What else do I need that I might not know about? I've never even seen 3D. My daughter says I have to get 3D. She's 6.
I'm off in the weeds with this one:
I'm finally ready to upgrade my HT rig, starting with a receiver. My goals are: networkable, does dinosaur footsteps super awesome, and all switching in one place. I've had my eye on the Denon 4810 receiver below for a while. The 4810, however, is a little dated according to modern home theater equipment standards. It's been out for a couple of years already and is a little behind the curve compared to the hot new stuff that's out or is soon to be out. For example, it doesn't handle HDMI 1.4 video switching.
Just because the 4810 doesn't do HDMI 1.4, however, doesn't mean I can't have 3D video if I decide I want it. As long as I have a 3D capable display and a DVD player with dual HDMI outs, which all the ones that matter (Oppo) definitely do, I can still watch 3D video old school style using the switching in the display, just like I have been doing for the last however many years
Here's the deal:
Thanks to some guy over at avs who let fly with some pricing information before the mods disappeared it, I can get the 4810 new from an authorized Denon dealer for a little over $1700, plus shipping. That is a whopping 40% off its retail price of $3k. (Can you say product dump?) (And just what are the margins on these things, anyway?)
On the other hand, the unit with which Denon will soon replace the 4810 is going to be pricey. Right? Sure, it will be able to handle HMDI 1.4, and maybe even some other stuff that I need but don't yet know about, but it will be at least $3000, and probably even more.
So the question is this: other than 3D video switching capability, what other features are going to be worth the extra $1200+ that the 4810's successor is going cost me? I'd rather take that difference and put it to use in what's left of my budget on something like speakers or the display. Wouldn't I?
I've been thinking about it for a couple of days, and the more I do, the more I think this deal on the 4810 is too good to pass up.
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Has all the latest bells n' whistles, including HDMI 1.4 and networking.
On a related subject, when you get ready for speakers, take a look at the Monitor Audio stuff. A buddy of mine just bought a pair of M4 floorstanders, and they sound seriously good for the bux. I was impressed enough to order an MCentre center channel speaker to use with my Vandersteens, and it blends amazingly well.
And thanks for the suggestion to look into Monitor Audio speakers. My brother in law is going through this, too, and he and I both have them on our short list.
Real life is in three dimensions, I want to escape it when I watch a movie. OK, seriously....Denon AVRs are fantastic and I think you would be getting a great unit at a nice price. I've had several Denon units with only one having a problem, covered under warranty. A few friends and family have received my older units as I've upgraded along the way and all of them are still working. They are much easier to set up then a comparable Sony ES model, and sound very good to my ears. Just get it and enjoy your at-home movie experience. If you really want to see the occasional flick in 3-D catch it at the theater.
Baba-Booey to you all!
I dont know Im not interested in the amps that trade features for whats suppose to be in it wt wise. some make them lighter to include more features. this is not what I saw from denon last amp. ones 140 watt the other more expensive is just 150 watt. but with an impressive 20 lbs more. Ive looked at a few mid priced receivers to upgrade to. they weigh less than what I own. so I was impressed at the 20 lbs more rec.theres something in it that I bet will make it sound better than the other one. I really cant help you much but you will get either the totl or the one under it. I would at least try to find out why the other ones so much heavier. the extra 10 watt amp will give some wt but 20 lbs?
dts-cds dvd-audio &mch sacds & blu-ray concerts & speaker amp sound system tweaks rule
I would almost suspect it is computer generated.
As for Denon. I am on a mission.
I bought a high-end universal player ($1400, I got it for $700 from a friend who had a dealership) from them that gave me no end of trouble. After over $400 worth of repairs and it still didn't work I threw it in the dumpster. I contacted them on mutiple occassions and got diddley.
I also bought a high-end pair of headphones from them. Luckily the lefthand phone broke off before the warranty was still in effect. I of course had to pay shipping.
I like to buy used bd players because I dont know how long they will last. so I bought the 2nd generation panasonic bd10 there bd/dvd audio players they retailed for $600.00 got them used at ebay for under $100. I bought 3 of them. only 2 get used. I always wanted to try denon but never did. ive got panasonic dvd players dating to 2000 that work today so I stayed with that brand. Ive stayed with brands that are trouble free.others are onkyo amps & dvd audio changer & an oppo player but it does not get played much & kyocera amps.the kyocera amps are 25 years old & get played every day. its strange that they work so well.
I dont like getting anything repaired so the best quality hi end sound is not what I care about. I use an external dac for 2 channel that helps some.
dts-cds dvd-audio &mch sacds & blu-ray concerts & speaker amp sound system tweaks rule
sorry I should of explained better.I have a $1000 onkyo receiver that does not have hdmi. there was an online mag that was called trading features for amplification. I only compared an hdmi rec for the same price. they are not the same. the new one is 7 channels mines 6 channel The new one weighs less & uses less power but there the same 100 watts. so to get close to the same specs & wt I have to go to the next model that is $400.00 more. plus Its more wattage. the cases are the same size. but the more expensive one has a different face plate.some one here has one of the newer ones complaining about clipping at loud volumes. I also have the 5.1 that was $600.00 the $1000.00 has the same wt as the 5.1 & its 7 channels.
I dont know what they did to the sound but they got more features:} I like that denon rec but to much money for me.
dts-cds dvd-audio &mch sacds & blu-ray concerts & speaker amp sound system tweaks rule
Edits: 01/27/11
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