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In Reply to: RE: I dont trust the Oscar voters posted by Bill the K on March 24, 2020 at 23:10:49
Hollywood is pretty much a Godless community. Interesting to note too that the two movies that I thought were excellent last year, never saw the inside of your local theater. I guess we are seeing a slow change in the movie making business....
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Really?
It was nominated for Best Actor (Pryce) Best Supporting Actor (Hopkins) and Best adapted Screenplay.
It also got 4 nominations at the Golden Globes.
While it is true, thankfully, that Hollywood is largely secular, thankfully, out of the hundreds and hundreds movies made,Hollywood recognized Two Popes in three major categories.
If it's a good film on any topic it will get recognized.
But the warped U.S. version of Christianity is more like Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas - greed and gluttony matter more than Granny.
Heck if Jesus did come back - being poor and ARAB and touting give to the poor - he'd be locked in a cage on the southern border.
WIN any awards... and please spare me the lecture on what you consider to be the shortccomings of U.S. Christianity, I can do without that.
Thanks - and I can do without you implying there needs to be more God.People vote for what they think is the best movie/performance. And all votes carry some bias. I am not religious. But I would have voted for the Exorcist in 1974 which starred real Catholic Priests and not actors and was supported by the Catholic Church (made them look good). I am not religious and I would have voted for it.
So the idea that because someone doesn't believe in God would not vote for a movie that is about religion is silly.
I would vote for Religulous too. A film about Religion.
Edits: 03/25/20
What's new about endless rehashings and remakes? Or 'cartoon' movies? Or 16 (take your pick) Rambo? or Batman? or Thor? movies?
original screenplays are scarce and I think except for the first couple decades....maybe 1939 was THE year, difficult to source.
It's pretty sad that one of the worst movies EVER made, 'Battlefield Earth' is so funny to me that I'll watch part of it when I see it broadcast. But the endless repeats of a dystopian future don't get me any more (Divergent / Hunger Games)
Even the Sequal to Creature From The Black Lagoon, The Shape Of Water got high regard.
Like Water For Chocolate got 10 (TEN) Ariel Awards (Mexican Oscars) while the 'Academy' completelly ignored 'em.
Look at the numbers. Ticket prices go up, driving incredible salaries while attendance is DOWN by several measures. My theater NOW has 'reserved seats' which means I must plan a day or so ahead if I wish to see a movie. Popcorn? $$$ and with crank case drippin's, not butter.
Too much is never enough
a Star Wars movie... or something that has beautiful landscapes and cinematography. I guess my point was that "movies" as we knew them are now being released more for the small screen rather than the multiplex. At the same time to your point the prices they charge for a large drink and popcorn ($15.) is ridiculous and especially given the fact that the popcorn is lousy and NOT real butter. I can make it at home... use real butter and have it just the way I like it!
Business is doubtless changing. Not necessariy for the better, either.
I find myself far from interested in MOST of what Hollyweird is putting out. Yawn. Another (fill in blank) which is a remake, derivative, Unoriginal, or like Psycho, a SCENE FOR SCENE remake of the original.
People got All Spun Up about 'The Shape Of Water', which, IMO was a sequel to 'The Creature From The Black Lagoon'.......
And yes, Popcorn is COMMODITY CHEAP and soda a tasty sugar delivery system. I'll slip a Hersey Bar in my Manbag before venturing out TO one of those movies.
I DID enjoy 'Knives Out' and also later, JoJo Rabbit, which i thought terrific. 1917 was totally unexpected and also Very Good.
Cinematography and Star Wars? Like Cuisine and Burger King. Want some cinematography?
Find a copy of 'The Emerald Forest' or 'Excalibur' both by John Borman at the peak of his powers.
Or some of the real powerhouse scenes in a Hitchcock film.
Other notable efforts include 'Like Water For Chocolate' or even Apocalypto.
Too much is never enough
on the "big" screen... I don't miss the big screen for a picture like Marriage Story or possibly even JoJo Rabbit (even though I have not see it). Star Wars, Raiders, GWTW and etc... NEED to be seen on a big screen. I'm okay with things going smaller as I said it can now cost you easily a hundred dollar bill to go to the movies and a nice dinner...Which is ludicrous! I LOVE Excaliber, one of my favs. I will need to try to get to the theater before 1917 is gone as THAT is one that I would like to see there. I have not seen Like Water For Chocolate OR Apocalypto and since I am a Mel fan that hss been on my radar for quite some time...
ticket prices remain absurdly low (especially if you went during early shows), screens are immense, sound is at all-time best, seats (the new recliner ones) absolutely sota comfort. Yeah, concessions are expensive, but it's like all the extra stuff at restaurants: managers know they can't charge more than 20-30 bucks and entree (been the same for a hell of a long time) so they up the wine/glass price, salads, appetizers, and desserts. You can spend as much, or as little, as you want.
Ticket prices are roughly keeping pace with inflation.
What HAS changed is viewship numbers. This shows at fairly steady decline since the '40s.
I suspect 1939 was a bumper year with so many movies from that year still being shown.
Including? Gone With The Wind. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. Stagecoach. And a bunch others.
I've seen probably 14 of the top 20 grossing movies from that year. GWTW has grossed a mere 200Million$ which is peanuts by todays inflated standards.
Movie producers go for the 'easy' bucks rather than original or challenging films. You have to go 'indie' for THAT.
Too much is never enough
the box office KING. I was actually hoping that the studio would re-release GWTW as it just passed it's 80th anniversary... I would REALLY like to see it on a big screen someday. Doesn't matter to me which is the box office champ is I absolutely LOVE both those films!
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