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In Reply to: RE: War films invariably end up glorifying war. I think it's time for a bracing posted by tinear on October 12, 2020 at 10:23:20

A couple decent references for you:

"Meeting the Enemy: A Marine Goes Home", Suel D Jones,

"On Killing, The Psychological Cost ...", Dave Grossman.

Both ex-mil. Suel is a friend. Grossman taught this class at West Point. As a former medic, I've seen enough PTSD to not buy into the John Wayne war format. Now-a-days, every other person I pass has it. I feel the vibe. The glory thing helps bury the monster no one wants to look at.

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War films all glorify war, though some inadvertently. nt - tinear 14:15:42 10/12/20 (5)
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- Nothing's wrong with glorifying just wars. nt - Victor Khomenko 15:30:48 10/12/20 (4)
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  - Disagree. A complete failure of humanity causing all of them. - free.ranger 10:54:56 10/13/20 (2)
    One sided or both, there was enough preceding malice, stupidity, and cowardice to allow the lowest form to occur. A compete failure of humanity. Imo, feeling just about that doesn't fit.
    
    Just saying "just war" is like Himmler's "final solution".
    - I suppose you also never heard of justifiable self defense. - Victor Khomenko 13:22:15 10/13/20 (1)
      Fortunately for you, there are people who feel differently.
      - Defense causes war? - free.ranger 14:26:06 10/13/20 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I suppose you also never heard of justifiable self defense. posted by Victor Khomenko on October 13, 2020 at 13:22:15
        
        First rule of martial arts - don't start it. Lucky for us that's taught, no?
        Lack of justification is on the offense.
        
        Edits: 10/13/20
  - But what is a just war? - tinear 10:06:48 10/13/20 (0)
    "When many people are killed, they should be mourned and lamented. Those who are victorious in war should follow the rites of funerals. Those who defeat others are strong, those who defeat themselves are mighty." Lao Tse

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