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This is ported over form Steve Hoffman's forum. A very funny, clever, and pertinent piece of writing. As videophiles/movie buffs, I thought others would enjoy it here and it would provoke discussion:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20040408,00.html (back page of Entertainment Weekly)
Power to the People by Mark Harris
It's the big Hollywood lie: Movie studios say they're only ''giving the people what they want'' -- but who are these ''people''?
In the movie business, there are several ways to spot a lie. Some involve math: For instance, the sentence ''The movie was great — it was just marketed badly,'' which is said every hour in Hollywood, is true exactly 3 percent of the time, whereas ''The movie was bad — it was just marketed really well,'' which is almost never said, is true 97 percent of the time. Some lies are formulaic: Anybody in movies who starts a sentence ''At the end of the day...'' is clearly revving up the manure spreader. But there's an even more common lie. The sentence ''We're just giving the people what they want,'' when uttered by a studio executive, is always, always untrue. How can you tell? Easy: There's no such thing as ''the people.'' Not anymore.
Late May is a roller-coastery time in pop culture. In TV, the season has just wrapped; we are near the end of The Sopranos and The Shield and in the middle of Lost and at the beginning of Heroes and Friday Night Lights and The Tudors and, depending upon our tastes, following any number of dark, complicated, challenging, years-long story arcs, assessing and arguing about them every week. It's a good moment.
Meanwhile, here's the movie slate in which the studios invested something like $750 million this month: part 3 of a movie based on a comic book. Part 3 of a movie based on a children's book. And part 3 of a movie based on a Disneyland ride.
Not much of a contest, is it?
This is where ''We're just giving the people what they want'' comes in. It's the defiant lie told by those who want to pretend that their failures of ambition are your fault — that because ''the people'' eat what they're fed, they must like it. The moneymen behind Spiders of the Shrekibbean brag about meaningless numbers (Spider-Man 3 had the biggest opening weekend of all time!) and shrink from meaningful ones, like the fact that Spider-Man 3 cost more and will likely gross less than the first two. And they start planning Spider-Man 4 because ''the people'' want it, and try not to listen to the moviegoers saying ''Ehh, 3 was okay, the second one was better.'' Because nothing that anyone says after the movie counts.
Don't you hate being referred to as ''the people'' — as if you were a big mass of grazing cows being herded from one multiplex pasture to the next every week? You don't hear it in TV anymore, because networks know that we've become a niche nation, and we're going to stay that way. We don't all like the same shows; we don't all want to like the same shows. When the most popular (and most people-powered) TV series is American Idol, and three-quarters of households are happily watching something else every time it's on, talk of ''the people'' as a unified entity becomes pointless. (It's even pointless on Idol itself: Remember when ''the people'' decided that they liked Taylor Hicks better than Chris Daughtry, and then months later, when their CDs came out, decided they were only kidding?)
It turns out that not caring about ''the people'' is liberating. It frees you to care about your people — the 2 or 5 or 10 million who are passionate about Friday Night Lights or Rescue Me or The Wire or Battlestar Galactica or The Office, who will stay with your show for as long as it's good, whose enthusiasms and high standards and judgments may even help, indirectly, to make it better.
The problem isn't with American filmmakers, many of whom are doing exciting work right now (wait until fall), but with mainstream-studio-chief thinking. The people who finance big movies are still pretending they're doing it for everyone, but the only segment of ''everyone'' they're willing to spend enormous sums of money wooing are 15-to-24-year-old males and little kids (and whomever they drag along). The true translation of ''We're giving the people what they want'' is ''We're making the only kind of movies we know how to sell, and we're selling them to the only demographics we know how to sell to.'' Everyone else is treated as a minority or special-interest group — including women, who get one or two mid-budget films tossed at them per summer (usually the extent of studio thinking about that half of the population is ''Um...is Angelina Jolie available?''), and ''old people'' (in Hollywood, that means all Americans 35 and over), who are brushed off until well after Labor Day.
Will Hollywood notice how many of ''the people'' are staying home? Not yet — not as long as there are self-serving ways of tabulating actual ticket sales and another biggest weekend of all time! around every corner. But if the studios don't figure out that ''the people'' are a lot more diverse than their movies, they're in for some bad news. Thirty-seven percent (according to a 2006 MPAA study) of Americans now feel that ''the ultimate movie-watching experience'' resides not in a theater but in their own living rooms. That number is going to grow. As it does, maybe the studios will finally have to think about who ''the people'' actually are — and what we really want.
Follow Ups:
...made with G and PG ratings (as a whole) earn more money -- and are cheaper to make! -- than those with R ratings; yet the studios continue to churn out the same old F*ck f*ck f*ck flicks. (Hey! Not a bad line...)
Why is that?
Well perhaps it's safer not to go into it here...
And then there's the audience, increasingly composed of young boys looking for game-type thrills and whose parents don't mind their kids' being exposed to violence, profanity and sometimes even morbid sexuality. That explains the blockbusters and their FX budgets..
Grownups do still get, however, fine movies like Spring Forward, The Station Agent, Mystic River, Half Nelson, Apocalypto, Children of Men, The Lives of Others, The Wind that Shakes the Barley, Once -- not all of them "Hollywood", but all (I think) had Hollywood money in them.
Maybe it's kind of like how, in the history of recordings, the million-sellers (all pop) supported the real music.
As for television, it's been more consistently enjoyable in the past decade than the movies, although thank God it isn't good all three evening hours of every night of every week!
clark
Thus one must wonder what the studios' impetus is in making the R's. Do they have angels (demons?) funding them? Or do actors just need to say "f*ck"?
clark
inappropriate for all those gosh-darn movies to use that salty language!
And I agree, Michael Medved is Our Father's own movie reviewer, sent here from Heaven to show the Heathen Hollywood the True Way.
Praise the Lord!
And by the way, maybe you do, but none of the hundreds of people I know has a mouth anywhere near as foul as the average R character. Sure, you hit your finger and... or trip and fall and...
Perhaps you don't think that curse-laden dialog displaces colorful writing?
clark
No. Words is words. well written foul language can be quite colorful.
Why do I suppose "Hollywood" makes so many unprofitable R movies? 1. It's hard to make a profitable movie regardless of the rating. 2. R rated movies have a built in limiation to their audience. Like I said before, it aint rocket science.
was sarcastic, but I think that using Michael Medved as a cultural model is akin to asking Rush Limbaugh for dietary advice. I have virtually zero respect for him as a reviewer, because he carries so much religious/political baggage, and is more-than-willing to expose it in his reviews.
As far as coarse language in film, perhaps it's all subjective. As much as I liked 'The Big Lebowski', the constant f-word usage drove me nuts! Yet, perhaps ironically, the constant cursing in 'Deadwood' seems entirely appropriate to the mood/atmosphere of the setting. Why the difference? Who the hell knows, but I think that's why movies are movies, and we need to just let their makers do what they will. In the end, we as the viewers decide what is appropriate. Can you imagine a movie about the mafia without cursing? Of course not-though 'The Godfather' exhibited much less of it than 'The Sopranos'. Which is right-only you can decide.
Vaya con dios
The man lost forty pounds! And you refuse to recognize this?
But back to the point: I was not using MM as "a cultural model;" that's your fantasy. I simply noted that he had numerous times (for which he provides actual *data*) discussed the *fact* that while H'wood makes good money on "clean" fare, somehow they still persist in making money-losing F-bomb fare.
I was asking, What's up with that?
"Can you imagine a movie about the mafia without cursing?" No, but I can imagine a world without f'n mafia movies.
clark
benefits along with it's mood altering effects.
And Medved's "research" is so flawed as to be laughable. One could just as easily find "data" that "proves" that movies with, say, a higher percentage of green-eyed, blonde latinos have a higher gross (but slightly lower net) than those films whose second leads are three-legged dogs. That's not research-it's manipulation to forward his cultural (there's that word again) model to the gullible, and, not coincidentally, fatten his wallet. You know-sort of like Rush!
But hey, if that awful language bothers you so much, just get a Clearplay DVD player. Your tender psyche will no longer be subjected to that rough-as-a-cob cursin'. You win-heck, we all win!
"....I can imagine a world without f'n mafia movies."
Well, if your film world doesn't include the 'Godfather' trilogy, it's a sadder world for it.
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either f-word quotient or box office gross.
Which is why your argument is so....odd.
R rated movies do not do as well. One need look no further than the top 100 all time international B.O
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/
Only 12 of them are rated R. How many of those top 100 movies do you think are great movies? I probably like a lot more of them than you do. Is this what you want? The Titanic, Spiderman 4 Batman the next generation 2 and Mr & Mrs. Smith?
Making movies is always a gamble. The big budget sequels sometimes bring in hundreds of millions, and sometimes they don't. They cost a fortune to make. Smaller cheaper movies that appeal to adult audiences can also be financially successful. An R-rated movie like Once, made for a pittance, can become a breakout hit...as it seems to be doing. And why would one change the all but perfect dialog in such a movie for a PG-13 rating? Their decision to retain the R language has turned out to be a correct one on both artistic and commercial grounds.
c
It is possible movie producers care more about artistic and creative achievement than money. Most producers already have plenty of money.
It is possible they find the study flawed and disbelieve its conclusions.
It is probable that they evaluate each potential movie investment on its own merits as a unique and individual set of risks and potential benefits.
The truth is the suits find the studies to be quite credible and push film makers to make movies PG-13. The film makers don't give a shit so much about B.O. and just want to make the movie they had in mind which often includes content that leads to an R rating. Sometimes the movie makers win sometimes the suits win.
and long list of great movies were all PG13. I am baffled that anyone who loves film would complain about a lack of censorship.
... then, boy, are you in for a steep learning curve!
There is a large number of people who simply cannot go to R rated movies and those people make upa huge section of the movie ticket buying population. Not only that but that same group generally needs a parent or adult to take them to those PG movies making for more ticket sales. It aint rocket science.
> > not all of them "Hollywood", but all (I think) had Hollywood money in them. < <
This strikes me as a form of self serving circular logic about "Hollywood" making bad movies. It looks like you are saying that if "Hollywood" makes a good film it is by definition not a "Hollywood" movie. So what is the point of claiming "Hollywood" movies are bad when in effect your defintion of a "Hollywood movie" is a *bad movie* rather than a movie made by "Hollywood?"
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