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RE: Ok, lets evaluate your "point", but first let's look at Paramount's agenda

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Jazz Inmate

In Reply to: RE: Ok, lets evaluate your "point", but first let's look at Paramount's agenda posted by Jack G on December 05, 2007 at 11:36:37

>> I didn't say it was scientific. <<
True, but you are constantly asking for "proof" from me while relying on specious evidence to support your own position.
>> You implied if studios used different codecs/transfers for the different formats, BD would look better. <<
Kind of, but what I said was that HD DVD content is more or less ported over to produce the BD content from studios dabbling in both formats. Or did you think Paramount was going back to the source material, breaking out the film and redigitizing it to produce separate content for both codecs. What makes you think they're different transfers?
>> I gave examples of that not being the case. <<
Not really. It's obviously sourced from the same transfer. You can't point to Paramount as a company that we can rely upon to see the advantages of Blu-ray. Not if you expect to be taken seriously, at any rate.
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Edits: 12/05/07

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This is getting old... - Jack G 12:14:29 12/05/07 (3)
> > > Or did you think Paramount was going back to the source material, breaking out the film and redigitizing it to produce separate content for both codecs. What makes you think they're different transfers? < < <
Let me make it simpler for you:
Same master, different compressions for each format using different codecs, not just ported over from HD DVD. NOTE: Masters are still far superior to either format, so that is not the limiting factor.

> > > You can't point to Paramount as a company that we can rely upon to see the advantages of Blu-ray. < < <
The problem is, you can't point to any company to see the "advantages" of BD even when they do treat the formats different. There just aren't any in practice.
Jack
- Tell me about it - Jazz Inmate 13:18:20 12/05/07 (2)
  > > The problem is, you can't point to any company to see the "advantages" of BD even when they do treat the formats different. There just aren't any in practice. < <
  
  Of course there are and I can point to the 7.1 audio and PCM content on BD which would be physically impossible to release on HD DVD. Unfortunately, you refuse to admit these are advantages, but that doesn't mean increased capacity isn't an advantage--just means you can't admit it.
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  - Try to focus - Jack G 13:36:44 12/05/07 (1)
    we've been talking about video.
    
    You wrote, "It's obvious that any content produced for HD DVD is simply ported over to Blu-ray with no emphasis on quality and that's not good."
    
    I corrected you, giving examples.
    
    Then you said, "Or did you think Paramount was going back to the source material, breaking out the film and redigitizing it to produce separate content for both codecs. What makes you think they're different transfers?"
    Again, I corrected you.
    
    > > > Unfortunately, you refuse to admit these are advantages, < < <
    Just like you refuse to admit that the lack of region coding is an advantage to HD DVD. Different people have different priorities, but then, we've discussed that before and you refuse to admit that too.
    Jack
    - RE: Try to focus - Jazz Inmate 14:12:09 12/05/07 (0)
      The lack of region coding is something that the studios would need to address in HD DVD. They're not going to simply give up exclusivity in the regions where they have distribution rights. The only reason it's allowed to happen now is because the sales volume is pitifully small. If HD DVD takes off, which seems unlikely at this point, it would definitely get a region encoding spec. I fail to see how you could convince yourself otherwise.
      
      I'm giving up on our conversation about Paramount's releases. There is just too much shoddy info to come to any reasonable conclusion. You say "people" have determined that the content looks the same. What people? You say both versions come from a master that is of superior quality. What makes you so sure? Or as you'd say to me: prove it. Bottom line: Paramount is the last company I would look to for indication about quality content. Its commitment to blu-ray is nonexistent as we've all seen very clearly.
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